How can Atheists be so sure God does not exist? Here is my side, as a believer, now yours please. Share.?

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In response to all the Atheists I left when I "awoke" to faith, regarding my lack of "proof" I ask the same to you. I am answering a question and asking one as well. (hence the length) lol. Prove why you are so sure. If long long ago someone once said "sun/moon" was one and far away from Earth , many would think "impossible". They were called Alunars. We know so little, yet the one's claiming great minds lack imagination and probability. Why? An easy way out of thinking. They are often the self proclaimed intellects and scientists who call themselves Athesist. They claim we believers foolish, so what if ignorance is bliss, what do you have that is better to offer? drugs? science? how uplifting to be biological waste and no more. To me (and Albert Einstein) to deny something just because you lack proof that perhaps the human eye, as a very weak organ (even a feline has better eyes in darkness), is too limited to grasp. Can you fully explain energy as it relates to the body? Perhaps the miscroscope or telescope you need as proof has yet to be created. Many say "give me proof and I will believe"- just as many will never grasp the abstract complexity of literature and art, or quantum physics, how can one cure your spiritual blind spot? The whole point is faith not proof. Atheists simply lack a certain "gift", are you angry that you lack that extra sense, beyond sight and smell and touch... you should prove to me why a Creator does NOT exist. Believers can no more prove God than we can prove what makes you, you. To us believers, proof has been given- sorry you have not or can not accepted it. We have our proof, our whole being is tuned in to a frequency you cannot or will not feel. How can we prove that to you? Just as certain creatures can hear what your ear cannot, we who know God- just do. To have proof, you must first forsake need of proof. I feel no shame writing all this, can you not see all the tears and blood and misery those without faith have? Do not blame God for what man has done inaccurately and sadly in HIS name- ? God does not kill, man and free will does. I hope to have at least one person delve deeper- to allow their energy to join the grand design and feel it.

Answer 1

Well, good for you!

You sure didn't prove your god exists and your god didn't 'gift' you with class nor tolerance.

Answer 2

amen

hope ur not evangelical

Answer 3

Quite simply, the God in the Bible does not exist because:-

1.  It is internally inconsistent;

IE - God seems to change character through out the Bible.

2.  It is Illogical

God blames Adam and Eve for eating a fruit that he put there in full knowledge what they would do and knowing that Adam and Eve did not understand Good or Evil - then he punishes people for acting in the very way that he designed them.

3.  It is inconsistent with the observed universe.

I have plenty of data that shows the world is older than 6,000 years. That is inconsistent with Genesis - therefore, since Genesis is not supported at all, we must say that it is not true.

Conclusion

I do not choose to not believe, rather, I have reviewed the evidence from a place of not knowing and then concluded that the God described in the Bible does not exist. I am yet to carry out the same examination on Zeus, Jupiter or Odin or any one of the 40,000 other gods but I am pretty sure that the answer will be the same.  

Answer 4

Atheists cannot be sure of god's existence, but due to the lack of proof chose to disbelieve it.

Atheists is as agnostics about god as the theists. Except, atheists chose to be fair to all god(s) and disbelieve in everyone of them.

For your analogy, long time ago people believed there is a goddess in the moon with a rabbit, such imagination, but that does not make it the truth either.

However, theists are selective, they choose one over another, without any proof except blind faith. Now, could you please tell me which religion are you from and which god you worship? How is your god more true then the next 50,000 gods humans created to serve their purpose?

Answer 5

personal experience is not proof.

"The whole point is faith not proof."  you're admitting that there is no proof.

"Atheists simply lack a certain "gift", are you angry that you lack that extra sense"  i'm not angry that i don't feel your god.

Answer 6

Because I can read and understand what I have read . No historical evidence at all for Jesus exists why should I believe in someone for whom there should have been myriad records and nada ?  

Answer 7

Pascal's Wager'

Appeal to Consequence

Appeal to False Authority

Argument from Incredulity

Poisoning the Well

Shifting the Burden of Proof

Did I leave anything out?

Answer 8

The burden of proof is on you, since you're making a claim.

Answer 9

aha......but I need some sort of evidence...anyone???

Answer 10

I am not sure god does not exist.  I am not sure the invisible pink unicorn does not exist.  However, since there is no evidence to support the existence of either, there is no reason to believe in either.

Are you sure that the invisible pink unicorn does not exist?  Do you have any proof of that?  If not, should you then believe in the unicorn?

We need to think more critically.

Answer 11

Yes I can be sure. The Buddha covers this extremely well so I don't know why I have to seeing as I have limited space.

I don't have to prove anything.

Could there be beings superior to us in ability and knowledge? Absoultly! Would they be Gods? Nope! If you met a being that was actually like Q (Star Trek) would you worship him? Nope, just an alien with cool abilities. I can imagine a lot of things but a singular being, all powerful and all knowing who makes no evidence of his/her existence who goes through the trouble of creating a multi-verse and makes no effort to have a direct, unambigous relationship with any sentient beings he/she has created is more tripe that I can swallow.

You tell me how God has no creator and none other of his kind and I'll get back to you about the rest.

There is no proof, I'm sorry that you feel that there needs to be someone in control for your life to be happy. Mine is wonderfully happy with no belief in "gods" but with OCEANS of faith.

Answer 12

Can you disprove Zeus? Odin? Eingana? The Jade Emporer? Atua Fatine? Njirana? Horus? Lugh?

It would take days for me to run out of gods to add onto this list. Have you disproof for all of them? I certainly don't. However, without any evidence for any of them, the only thing proper to do is to set these claims aside.

The burden of proof is on you, not us.

Given what your wrote, you only believe because it makes you feel better, not because your used your brain to arrive at a conclusion.

Answer 13

It's a matter of probabilities. What are the chances that some super-being, more complex than the universe itself, just popped into existence out of nothing? That is what you are claiming to be true - with NO evidence whatsoever - because you can't imagine any other answer. Then science came along (after a thousand years of official suppression by the church) and started to find answers, and believers fell further and further behind. Your precious religions are to philosophy as astrology is to astronomy: pure, unadulterated codswallop!

Answer 14

No one can prove a negative. You can't prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist, so why should we have to disprove your equally ridiculous "God" fellow? The person making the ignorant, unverifiable claim should be the one trying their hardest to produce the proof, not the one sighing and rolling their eyes.

Answer 15

1.  There is no proof of sky fairies.  

2.  "God" drowned every person on the planet by drowning... children and infants too.  (In response to your claim that "God" doesn't kill...)

3.  Why should I prove sky fairies don't exist?  It is up to you to prove they do.  Otherwise, the Tooth Fairy, Santa, and leprechauns exist.  Prove they don't.

How can I be so sure?  Easy: there is no evidence to support any sky fairy concept, let alone a benevolent, married-virgin knocking-up one.

Answer 16

Look pal, believing is believing, thats why is called belief! Its what you choose to belief, if u believe that you have a sixth sense and that some of us others (atheists) dont, well then you can believe that.  If i believe that god doesnt exist, well then i guess i am going to believe that.  religion is irrelevant, u talk like being an atheist is not being religious, well isnt religion a belief system? so if i believe that god doenst exist, isnt that a religion?  Really it is interesting that you would even make such a post, because if you cannot truly prove to me that god does exist, then whats the point of posting this for you, because any answer u receive is irrelevant.  Is it really because ur beliefs are shaky and u feel the need to have feedback, maybe to confirm ur beliefs? are u not as strong as a believer as u think?  

well there are so many fallacies in ur rant that i could go on all night, but there is one last thing that is pretty funny that you would include.  You say that ppl with out beliefs are violent?  who are the people that for the past thousand years have been causing almost 90% or more of hte violence??? its the ppl who bicker over whos god is more powerful, whos belief system is right and whos is wrong.  most of the wars that have occured have had religion at their base.  But now as i am writing this i am thinking, everything we know is belief, i belief that i am typing this right now, but i cand prove that to u or anyone else, to someone standing next to me or even myself.  who am i or anyone else to say that i am doing this, it is just my brain telling me this and i am choosing to believe it.  so really every piece of violence, or really broadened to every bit of everything, is caused by belief.

so there, i dont even know if anyone will understand wut i typed cuz it was just me pouring things out of my mind as they came to me, and to answer ur ...... question? or i dont even know what it was becuse it didnt even make sense, there is no such thing as not believing so really ur questoin doesnt even exist. owned

Answer 17

Really?  I counted 8 questions in here.  It's late and my eyes are fuzzy.  I may have missed a few.

What is it that you want to know?

Answer 18

The Judeo-Christ-Islamic God cannot logically exist.  A perfect being can have no will, for that would imply a lack, an imperfection.  The universe cannot be subject to God's will and the natural law, because the first would negate the second.  We know natural laws exist, therefore a creator cannot exist to have created them.

Consider all the phenomena-disease, wars, earthquakes, etc-that were once thought to be supernatural, but we now know to be natural.  That is evidence that there is no such thing as the supernatural.

Answer 19

The burden of proof is always on the person making the positive claim.

Plus, whitespace is your friend.

Answer 20

I just think its a cowards way of life.

My life sucks so if i pray to this phoneybaloney lordy guy, he'll fix all my problems. And then, when i die, ill be whisked up to heaven where ill live forever an make up for my crappy earth life.

Answer 21

I will treat gods like they don't exist until you invent the device that can detect them.

Just like with fairies and leprechauns... no point believing in unproven stuff.

Answer 22

There are so many things that I can think of to argue with you about all this but, there's no point. Religious people will believe what they want to believe, and so will Atheists. I don't see why you care so much to be honest. It's not like we're hurting YOU by not believing, it's not like this is affecting your life in a huge way, now is it? Just accept the fact that people are allowed to believe whatever they want and have different opinions.

Answer 23

The bible is so contradictory and biased with no evidence that it must be ignored and outside the bible there is not one shred of evidence for the existence of a god!!

The absence of any evidence is taken in academic and scientific circles as accepted that the thing does not exist until evidence is found.

In the case of god there is actually proof against!!

There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one!!! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!!

Outside of the bible he is not mentioned in anything until many years after his supposed death!!

The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god!!!   He also organized Christianity into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!!  Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely Italian!!

What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Christian enemies - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!!!

Answer 24

Let's start with proving a negative...then we'll discuss the rest of your rant

Answer 25

How can you be so sure that Your God exist? What about Odin? What about Zeus? What about the Hindu Gods?

These gods were proven to be created way way way way way way way older than the Christian God. How can you be sure that your God is the real God? Remember, your God's depiction was copied by several pagan symbolism, Jewish beliefs, and Greek mythology. Not one things about your God is original.

You used personal experience as proof, that is not proof. People lie, even to themselves. You're desperate for meaning, and so you think you felt God inside you. Yet the truth is, you felt your own self.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! Do you have any idea that God has copied other gods? Have you any idea that your God isn't even original? Your religion, it's a fan-fiction of Judaism! You don't even understand your own faith, yet you continue to claim that you do!

You say God did not kill, and conveniently forget t6he fact that He has drown every single living thing in a great flood, ordered men to kill other men, smote anyone who follows their own beliefs, and kill innocent infants and children, CHILDREN! for making fun of a bald man.

You have no idea of your faith AT ALL!

WAKE UP IDIOTS!