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How can Catholics vote for the pro abortion candidate, Obama?

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I'll never understand how Roman Catholics can remain in their church when they vote for abortion-supporters (even infanticide) like Obama. Don't you feel like a hypocrite? Why do you remain Catholic? Please, fill me in.

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  1. They won't, those who strayed to Obama were doing so because of uncertainties about McCain. Palin will have no trouble bringing them back into the fold.


  2. What a stupid question I'm Catholic and voting for Mccain

    and also against Biden a catholic running with Obama , a contradiction

    but don't blame us a lot of Protestants are pro abortion and pro Obama

  3. Catholics in the USA see abortion as a personal choice that they will not choose themselves.  But also, Jesus taught a non-judgmental attitude and a tolerance for other beliefs.  Catholics understand that not everyone is Catholic, and that this country reflects freedom of religion.  

    Catholics look at the things that WILL affect them, such as health care, retirement, big oil stealing from the middle and lower classes and a host of other things.

    So- my question is why you are so judgmental of others.  Abortion is not the only thing in the balance of an election- in this country it remains a choice.


  4. Hypocrite?

    Nope.

    Greatest Gift God gave Us, and Christ died for (in part) is FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

    Not YOU, not ANYONE has the right to take it away.

    Period.

    Amen.

  5. Well the point is you dont have to agree with all the candidates policys do you.

    But on balance you need to unserstand what would be good for the nation as a whole.

    I am prolife but I know for a fact that the abortion thing will stay the same regardless of which candidate wins.


  6. Why do you think he chose Biden?

    Biden is a Catholic, but I don't think it will make a h**l of a lot of difference.

  7. Social justice requires evaluating many issues. Can one say republicans are truly "pro life? "  Seems like they have used abortion to manipulate enough voters into thinking they give a hoot!  

  8. heres the main problem with politics today is that religion is too involved. instead of focusing on real issues that affect poverty and education taxes etc. we focus on things such as abortion and affirmative action which really dont affect the economy or how the nation as a whole will grow. when picking a candidate focus more on what he can do for the country. dont get me wrong im a republican and hate obama. Mccain is the way to go.

  9. Well, the last time we elected a pro-life candidate, we got someone who practices pre-emptive war, has our war enemies sent to other countries to be tortured, puts wiretaps on our phone lines without court approval, hires and fires attorneys based on their political views, keeps people locked up for SEVEN YEARS without charging them with anything, gives out no bid government contracts worth BILLIONS of dollars to political friends, decides which laws he will obey (signing statements), blows the cover of CIA agents that are married to people who do not agree with him, and thinks that torture is acceptable in interrogation.

    Oh, and abortion is still as prevalent as it was 8 years ago.

  10. I would love to fill you in.  First off, Obama is pro-choice not pro-abortion.  He believes, as everyone should (including Catholics), that the sacrifice of living in a free country is that everyone has a right to their beliefs even if they do not agree with ours.  This is what Obama stands for.  All religions have a right to their beliefs in this country, wether you are Catholic, Jewish, Muslim or Atheist.  A Catholics vote should not be about making this country more Catholic but rather supporting what our fore-fathers believed in--that all are free to their beliefs.

  11. We all remember the back alley butchering that went on. That is why abortion was made legal in the first place. I do not like the idea of it happening.  What I have seen are people who are against it until their 15 year old daughter gets pregnant. I was raised Catholic.  I do not vote on one issue. The abortion issue has given the republican party a free ride because they know they will get the one issue voters no matter how bad they s***w us.

  12. I know the answer.

    Abortion is one issue out of thousands.

    So lets say I dont like abortions, but I also dont like record budget deficits, record trade deficits, low value of the dollar, outsourcing of jobs, 2 perpetual wars going on with no end, unaffordable health care costs etc...  Get my drift ???

    and besides, like the other poster asked..what is the difference between murdering fetuses and murdering grown live people or children in iraq over a cherry picked intel war of choice???  Are you one of those that shrugs when a car bomber kills 52 people in baghdad and say "oh well better fighting them there than here" as you sip your latte and read the paper?

  13. Each presidential candidate has viewpoints on SEVERAL issues, and abortion is just one of them. Even if Obama disagrees with your views on abortion, it doesn't mean that you personally will have to get an abortion should you need to make that choice. Choosing to be Catholic, or choosing to be pro-life, is a personal decision, and you need not be affected personally by the government where it's concerned.

    I myself am not Catholic. However, I have a close friend who is, and although she is pro-life, she is supporting Obama. She believes that while they disagree on ONE issue, he will do a better job of running the country. Besides, if he gets elected, it doesn't mean that SHE will have to go against her personal beliefs.

    Abortion is a sensitive issue, but I think that those who are pro-life have the right to make that decision and to choose to not have an abortion should they have the opportunity. But that doesn't mean that NOBODY should be able to.  

  14. Separation of church and state.  What happened to it?  Well, as mudslinging became acceptable, there was no part of a candidate's life that was protected from public shredding. Name calling from both sides is designed to play on emotions.  Humans may want black and white, but we constantly play in the grey. Your faith which sustains you on a daily basis may get severely challenged when faced with a real situation of incest, rape, personal  economics and personal ability to handle situations based on your own personal experiences.  Hypothetical Example:  My  16 year old daughter (with dreams of medical school) gets mugged, raped and becomes pregnant AND then finds out she  has and, potentially, the baby might contract, AIDS.  Do you think anyone in D.C. gives a rat's rear? No.  Do I want some old D.C. kook's head up my vaginal tract telling me what to do with my health, my life and my next generation? h**l no.  It may have taken a man to get a woman in that situation, but they certainly do not have the vested interest a woman does in the whole process.  Think of it like this:   Ham and egg breakfast.  The chicken(a man) contributes.  The pig(the woman) is committed.  Start thinking critically people!!!!!!  Do you really have to have this pack of D.C. hypocrites telling you how to run your own life?  When doctors can practice medicine? i.e. safe therapeutic abortions.  I'm surprised they have time or energy to even think about this type of legislation while running between their "show families" and their mistresses. C'mon...you know it's true. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Rowe vs. Wade.....it's the question George Washington pondered on the banks of the Potomac.  It should not be a piece of legislation we're still throwing at each other.

  15. Nope, I don't feel like a hypocrite.

    What is the difference between abortion and killing soldiers in Iraq?

  16. Are you seriously suggesting that Obama condones infanticide?

    Wow.

    No one supports abortion, I've never heard anyone jumping up and saying "I am so PUMPED for my abortion!" What people support is freedom of choice, to keep what is sometimes a necessary procedure safe, rather than illegal and dangerous.

    There's a reason the symbol of the pro-choice movement is an x over a coat hanger. No one wants it to go back to that.

  17. In the spirit of separation of church and State we do not consider it a determinant of who should lead the country.  After all, we are the land of choice in these matters.

  18. OH PLEASE... YOU TALK AS IF ROMAN CATHOLICS ARE THE PERFECT PEOPLE OF GOD - I AM VERY MUCH PRO-LIFE BUT GOD DOES NOT HOLD ME OR ANYBODY ELSE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHOICES OTHER PEOPLE MAKE,  WHETHER ITS OK UNDER THE LAW OR NOT! THE CHOICE IS STILL THEIRS. SO WHAT ARE THE ROMAN CATHOLICS DOING TO REACH OUT TO THESE WOMEN BEFORE THEY, HEAR ME, BEFORE THEY! CHOOSE TO COMMIT SUCH A HORRENDOUS ACT - ITS NOT ABOUT WHAT OBAMA BELEIVES OR WHAT HE SUPPORTS, ITS ABOUT HELPING PREGNANT WOMEN MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE THROUGH MINISTERING TO THEM AND PRAYING FOR THEM. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT. ATTACKING OBAMA DOESN'T EXCUSE YOUR NOT DOING YOUR PART AS A CHRISTIAN.

    SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING EXCUSES AND JUDGING WHERE YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO.  

  19. Catholics will not vote for Obama.

    His morals and theirs are not the same.


  20. Well if you think about it..roman catholic leaders are most likely not to marry! So that means they're least likely to have s*x with anyone. I dont think abortion's the first thing they would be concerned about. And if they do chose Obama, let them do what they want. Dont sit there and dictate them.

  21. I guess they can vote for him the same as they can attend a church and listen to a sermon by a child molester. I guess you would vote for who ever keeps food in your children's mouth, right? I don't see a future without turmoil if we elect Sen. Mccain.  

  22. he's not pro-abortion, he's pro-choice. There's a difference.  

  23. The Catholic Church also told us not to use birth control, but will the Church pay for all the children that would have been born if women had not used the pill? The Church says not to kill, but soldiers do it all the time, should they all be excommunicated? The Catholic Church used to give our indulgences for the number of "infidels" that a person killed.

    And then there was the Spanish Inquisition, when the Pope agreed to let the Spanish torture and kill anyone who was not Catholic or that recently converted, particularly the Jews. And of course, let's not forget all the heretics that were burned at the stake.

    The history of the Catholic Church is steeped in innocent blood so who is the hypocrite?  Your church is like your family, you love them in spite of their faults, but you don't always  have to agree with them.  

  24. Pro Choice.  Big Difference  Why is abortion such a big issue in the campaign. It is between a person and God, not the government to make a choice for us.

  25. Color trumps religious affiliation.

  26. I agree 100%.  As a Catholic, I cannot in any way, shape, or form support abortion.  This also means I cannot vote for a candidate who supports abortion.  Period.  If I did and my priest found out about it, I could very well be excommunicated.  

    For all my Catholic brethren who are pro-choice, you'd better read you catechism and get back in line with Church teaching.  

    God bless.

  27. They can't !!

  28. In a way I have more respect for Catholics on this issue because they were against abortion long ago.  Fundamentalist only have been anti-abortion since 1980 when it was 'invented' as an issue for the campaign to elect Reagan.  Catholic opposition to abortion is at least based on longstanding religious doctrine.  Protestant opposition is more political than spiritual.

    But look, let's be realistic.  The Republicans have had 30 years to do something about abortion.  Reagan promised a constitutional amendment no less, to declare the pre-born as humans.  No less than SEVEN Supreme Court justices have been appointed by Reagan and the two Bushes, each one was promised as the single swing-vote needed to overturn Roe v. Wade. But so far Repubs have mostly only talked about the issue, fulminated on the issue, and played around the edges.

    Nobody seriously thinks McCain is going to do any more to ban abortion than Republicans have already done.  For most of us, then, though we might feel strongly about it, it is simply no longer an issue on which we base our vote because we know that, however the candidates differ, their differences on abortion are differences of words, not of actions.

  29. Hmm.. I dont know. Especially since Obama wants to legalize partial birth abortion, youd think they wouldnt support him. I dont have a religion and I wouldnt support him because of his views on abortion (and because hes shady)

  30. My Catholic side of the family are all Democrats.  They are ALL voting for McCain.

  31. Because you have to become less ignorant and realize that there is no such thing as "pro-abortion", its "pro-choice"...no one is trying to force anyone to have abortions... DUH!

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