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How can a speck of dust create a big bang that creates humans that can think for themselves?

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How can a speck of dust create a big bang that creates humans that can think for themselves, have emotions, make choices etc??

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  1. alan -

    The phrasing of your question reveals a bias against the theory that tends to place you in a category of those who agree with you. As such, whether you intended to or not, you will probably receive very few reasoned responses from those who understand anything at all about it - only cheerleading from the dogmatists. If that's what you are looking for, then you have your reinforcement stated clearly above.

    However, if you want answers that are more in depth and to the point, you must ask them as if you do not already know the answer. You have posed a question that requires volumes of reference material to respond to. It touches on cosmology, astronomy, physics, biology, geology,and anthropology. To respond to that kind of a question here would simply not be effective. You should probably read the current material on all of these subjects, as documented by thousands of people devoting their entire lives to the effort. They probably know more about their field of specialization than you do, despite what you may have been told.  


  2. It's not really a spec of dust.

    How can an all intelligent form of nothing be created from nothing, and create humans from nothing to have what your question poses?

    ... yeah.

    Really, the main theory is based on something that was probably the size of what we know to be an electron. [electron is a component that helps create an atom.. in case.. you didn't you.]

    it's not a simple statement so anything i say is entirely cut short of what could be put together to easily explain the Big Bang and all of existance.

    though.. you then come to "well how did that single peace of c**p the size of an electron get there?"

    who knows.. who cares.

    think of it this way.

    light, through the vacuum of space, travels at a tad over 186 thousand miles in a single second.

    multiplied out into a long story short, light will travel almost 6 trillion miles in a year.

    that's a lightyear.

    the closest swirling galaxy like our own, the andromeda galaxy, is about 20 million lightyears away from our own galaxy if i remember currectly.

    so take that number above and multiply it by 20 million.

    the visible universe is some billion light years.

    so again.. take that number.. and in short terms.. multiply it by a single billion.

    now look at Earth.. the diamter of Earth is almost 8k miles..

    so that huge billion ordeal divided by a single 8k... yeah. and that's only the visible universe.. [what scientsits can see and know of today]

    which poses the question really, why does Earth even matter.

    simply.. it doesn't.

    down to the pebbles we rock on.. to the atoms in which create everything in existance.

    see.. a compound of atoms really [not exactly but in short terms] creates what we call elements.. elements in specific compounds create things such as gases, metals, molten material that turns into metal and earth and etc.

    eventually.. existance of life can occur.

    try and imagine a color you've never seen before..

    you can't.

    something not on the rainbow.. not black, not white. no shade in between.

    imagine a color you've never seen.

    you will never be able to do so.

    that's because the human mind only comprehends things it has seen.

    language is only here because we've eventaully put comprehension into it.

    words are nothing more than a vibration as is everything in existance moving at a slow rate that our ears connected through billions of little nerves pick up and send to a gooey substance in our brain.

    the only reason you comprehend the question you posed or what you're reading now is because of time.

    in that fact.. time being only a measurement of those perseiving it.

    a second is only a second because we measure it to be its length of a second.

    a soon as you read this word... right here.. that moment in time is over.

    you will never experience that singularity of moment in time ever again.

    when you wake up tomorrow, this moment will be gone.

    as a year from now.. this moment will be gone.

    as 10 trillion years from now.. this moment will be gone.

    so basically.. this moment is already gone.

    the future is the present really.

    slow down time.

    you get milliseconds, nanoseconds, etc.

    how far can you slow down time until all vibrations of the universe and existance stop.. until time yet has no meaning therefore proving that nothing would exist in that moment.

    therefore... does time even exist.. do we even exist?

    or is the entire universe still in that electron form of a spec perseiving everything we are and we perseive as something we can imagine to be compared to a subconscious of a sort.

    can you stop thinking? to stop thinking, you must stop breathing. stop hearing. stop knowing. simply stop.

    you can't.

    you are programed to exist until you die.. until yet it never even mattered.

    xD

    so what's the point.

    i doubt it's even there.

    but i know some 'god' being of intelligence before existance, will never exist.

  3. Perhaps your own Holy Bible supports the Big Bang better than any scientist can:

    "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:

    Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof."

    Do not mistake the size of something, for its potential.

  4. First, the Big Bang is a theory. We obviously weren't there, so no one knows exactly what happened. The theory is supported by some math that can explain parts of what scientists have found. Although we don't have solid proof of anything, that doesn't mean the theory isn't on the right track. I'd also add that theories have been modified, and sometimes abandoned because later information proved them to be wrong. The Miller-Urey experiments about the spark of life/primordial soup thing, I believe, are no longer given any weight. However, they are still studied as part of our science history.

    Second, the fact that life exist here, while miraculous, also represents one example in galaxy made up of hundreds of thousands of other galaxies in a massive universe. In other words, conditions were not exactly right for humans to appear anywhere else in the universe (to our current knowledge).  I would also consider that the relationship between energy and matter, along with the current physical laws that rule out things from just appearing. Assuming that energy and matter cannot be destroyed, they just change forms. Mixing chemicals reactants together gives you products. That can either be in the form of different chemical compounds and/or some form of energy (light/heat/etc.). Physically, the reactions that give off energy would look like something was lost; but that isn't the case.

    I'd also add that human didn't just instantly appear. We are talking millions of years. It was a progression of life forms that began at the cellular level. Some cells survived, some didn't. I don't necessarily want to rehash everything here nor complicate things with more theories, but evolution also helps explain some things. Once again, it's theory, not fact. That just means that we've found some pieces of the puzzle and have guessed what the big picture is like.

    Finally, I'd add that there are people called Creation Evolutionists. If that group exists, I'd say that these ideas can't all be incompatible.

  5. magic.

  6. mostly because the big bang and the origin of humans are completely, 100% unrelated.

  7. I'm afraid that I'll have to ask you to support your claim that you are thinking for yourself, because all I can see is parroted words from fundamentalist christian theology.

  8. didn't a spec or three of dust get mixed with God-spit into the mud that became a man?.... you buy that one don't you?..... sure ya do.... mud became a heart and out of that mud came eyes with unique retinal 'prints',  and a brain and skin with unique fingerprints, and lungs to breathe the air ...... all out of the dust of the Earth..... sure they did.... sigh...........remember now, this is the same god who cannot heal an amputee..... he can start a man from scratch in mud, but.....

    tell ya what.... I'll stick with my science...you go have fun with your..whatever it is.......K?......  

  9. Speck of dust?

    It was a singularity, you r****d!

  10. It can't and that's why that theory is absolutely ridiculous. Everything, including humans and how they work, the intricacy of it and the specific design of it could not have come into being from a big explosion of matter that cannot think.

  11. I don't know how such a thing is possible, but it is the best theory out there of what happened at the beginning of the universe. What other theories are there for the origin of the universe? That god did it? Oh, come on.

    Blame 'god' for everything that is unexplainable or hard to think about, and then you can abdicate yourself to the way things are, to ignorance. AH, the will of god...

    Just because we don't know the answer to something, doesn't mean we have to invoke a benevolent and omnipotent creator who just does things because he wants to.  

  12. Why not?  There is no reason the whole universe couldn't have once been the size of a dust spec.  And for all we know there may have been intelligent life in that early universe as well.  Size is relative, like time or space.

  13. It blow up to create everything. That doesn't mean there wasn't a divine intervention and that the universe didn't have some kind of blueprint.

    I don't think Big Bang or evolution excludes God's intervention.

    And another thing:

    It wasn't a speck of dust, but more like  point of singularity, a primordial atom.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang

  14. It sounds impossible when you phrase it like you did. You are making it sound like it went from the creation of the universe and in a couple of minutes humans were roaming the Earth crying over Archuleta loosing American Idol. There is a HUGE gap of 13 billion years in between! Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. The big bang talks about the creation of the universe, not the evolution of life on Earth. In simple terms-

    big bang created universe > universe cools and settles down and elements are created >about 7 billion years later our solar system forms> life is on Earth> life evolved into intelligent, human life

    And that is still leaving out a lot of gaps.

    And it wasn't a speck of dust.  The current theory for what started the big bang is that two string particles called "branes" collided.

    The brain evolved over a course of several million years to en-house thoughts, emotions, and logical reasoning. We didn't jump from the universe's creation to a highly advanced brain.

  15. It can't.  The whole theory of "the Big Bang" is a farce and cannot possibly be right.  The theories of evolution are all wrong too.  Macro Evolution or the development of new species from other species is impossible and has not nor cannot be proven.  Micro Evolution or changes within a species over time (also known as adaptation and development of breeds) is a fact and is proven but it's not the same thing as the "evolution" that most people are talking about).  Evidence for Micro Evolution is as near to you as the nearest pet store or zoo.  All those different looking breeds of dogs from the tiny miniature dashound to the huge great dane are still dogs.  A shetland pony and a  morgan draft horse are still horses,  Tigers, lions, cougars, cheetahs and little tabby cats all look different but they are still all cats etc.  I'm glad that another person besides me is questioning these therories instead of blindly believing them.  Good for you.

  16. All the matter of present day universe was all concentrated into one mass of ball. It was not a speck in the truest sense. It has been estimated (not by me) that all this matter was compressed and concentrated into a ball estimated to be 10 miles in diameter. And how long it existed that way is beyond anyone's wildest quess.

    How about this. Did time exist within that small mass?

    Now has far as life with intelligent thinking humans goes, there are two camps of thoughts on that one. I belong to the camp that believes that God created us. But not in the traditonal interpertation of 7 days of creation. Within readings of the bible, I have found indicators that suggest that life (intelligent) was here long before the 7 days of creation story.  

  17. It wasn't quite a speck of dust.  It was the god particle.  

    P.S. You will never find the answers to your questions asking other humans.  Seek deep within your own soul to find the answers.  Only you can be sure what you believe.  I could tell you all my theories and opinions but it would only be detrimental to your own autonomy.

    Keep asking, for the rest of your life.  Someday you'll come to some conclusions that are relatively logical.  Philosophy is the greatest of all sciences.  

    Also, study quantum and contemporary physics, it will teach you a lot.

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