How can anti-feminists say that police always listen to women?

Question

How can they say that the legal system is biased in favour of men, when it can take three months to even get around to questioning a possible rapist?

http://current.com/items/88987313_in_britain_rape_cases_seldom_result_in_a_conviction

Answer 1

There are no witnesses with rape. How can you expect a fair trial if there is limited evidence and no witnesses? The law is objective and not subjective.

Answer 2

How about the very clear bias concerning child custody during divorce proceedings.

Answer 3

The uk legal system, from what ive heard is antiquated and problematic.

Are you saying that rape cases are singled out and delayed? If not and there is also a 3 month delay in questioning a woman accused of GBH there is nothing wrong here outside of an inefficient legal system. Unless you believe that rape victims should get special treatment that is.

In Australia, they have a very efficient legal system and it does favour the female, i was falsely accused of dv and there was no asking the neighbours for statements, it was all on the strength of her word and that was that. I was strongly advised to plead guilty for my own good, pleading not guilty would have resulted in a stronger sentence you see.

Answer 4

They can say and do say anything that they want to, because they are not interested in the veracity (truth for you anti-fem HS dropouts) of the story as long as it furthers their pre-conceived notions of how the world is treating them badly..(Mommy help me - fight for my masculinist cause)

Answer 5

Most people don't pay attention to what happens in Wales.

Answer 6

did you mean...."How can they say that the legal system is biased in favour of 'women'"

HAHAHA!

Answer 7

because (as you have seen already on this question alone) they are more concerned with blaming their personal issues on the women in their lives, and end up blaming feminism and women as a whole because they refuse to look at their own failings.

and to the "what about the menz!?" poster above, rape is very different from child custody. also, look up the term "benevolent sexism"

Answer 8

Hmmm. This question sounds like just another feminist using rape as pawn in gender politics. I wouldn't say that the police handle rape cases very well for either the victim or the accused. If there were a foolproof way of getting every rapist caught and sentenced that would be great, but life isn't so simple. But I don't see a lot of anti-feminist voices complaining about women not being listened to so much as complaining that an accused man has few rights to anonymity and the mere accusation of rape can ruin his life. Btw note that no man respects a rapist, and you won't find a queue of anti-feminists defending anyone who is guilty of rape.

On the other hand if you want to talk about domestic violence, well now you will have me and a lot of other anti-feminists queuing up to tell you how the police always listen to women. In many cases the police are forced by law in some countries (created by feminist pressure groups) to listen to the woman's accusation and sling the man in jail.

Answer 9

We say that because that's the way it is more often than not. Women can claim PMS or Battered Woman Syndrome to get aquitted for the most terrible crimes like drowning 5 kids (Andrea Yates) or killing an innocent man in his sleep and saying he was abusive when he wasn't alive to prove himself innocent (Mary Winkler). If they can get reduced sentences and aquittals in places when they are guilty of serial murder, there is something to fear. It is as serious, if not more serious than rape. At least some accused get what they deserve in rape.

VAWA depends on the woman's word-of-mouth of the woman and needs no evidence other than a scratch. Divorce doesn't help things. Female tears have a lot of power.

Feminists should stop promoting rape and female victimhood. 95% of men in DV cases are said to be lying when they're both accussed and victims. Stop using rape as a pawn in your dirty politics.

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OK, this is one reported case, so ALL cases take 3 months to get around to questioning? In India, the accussed's home is invaded by police the day rape is reported. And it's supposed to be a patriarchy. And any well-publicized rape case in India in the past few years has got a conviction more often than not.

You're making it out like all the evil rapists walk free while women are harrassed. Do you think the accussed sits on a cushion watching TV in an air-conditioned room while the woman bellows her heart out? The police don't make things easy for the accussed or the victim.

It's because unlike DV, rape is very, very serious and great care has to be taken not to fling an innocent man in jail. The non-anonymity of the accussed certainly does not help. The moment you become associated with a rape case in some way, your career and life will never be the same.

Anti-feminists don't queue up in defence of rapists. Don't ever suggest that. While I certainly don't support rape, I also don't support a 'must-arrest' clause in anti-rape laws like VAWA. And false accusations (Yes, there are some. I remember the Dallas Cowboys case) don't help things.

I would like to hear your solution for this, sam. I've given you my take.

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EDIT: Very clever sam, except that men don't falsely accuse women of DV like women accuse men of rape. Coming to think of it, don't British DV laws cover rape too?

http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/docs/...

The link you posted was British, so my response is British. And as you might know by now, I have bucketloads of proof about how the woman's word is truth in DV cases. See where I'm getting.

Somehow, I don't think it is too uncommon for rape cases to be acted upon.

You're very clever sam, you avoided my question. I asked you what you thought the solution to this problem could be.

The reason you avoided my question to take a dig at me is because you know no solution. And if you don't know the answer, the question must be wrong right?

And how exactly is me telling the truth about men and DV 'dirty politics'? Last time I checked, I NEVER mentioned DV and oppressed men in this answer. Last time I checked, feminist stats weren't truth. They were grossly over-exaggerated to suit propaganda. THAT is 'dirty politics', and is nothing short of what you're doing here.

This is EXACTLY the mentality that led feminism to misandry and loss of support: feminists insult and belittle their critics instead of giving coherent answers to genuine queries.

http://www.ukmm.org.uk/issues/suppressio...

Answer 10

I think the justice system of most countries is anything but just-usually whoever has the most status gets justice and the rest of us get a mish-mash of incompetence; indifference; sexism; racism; mixed with competence and heroism.

US laws are based on our societal bias's and the majority of the laws are 10-20 years behind societal attitudes; the enforcement of laws differs based on the community mores as well as the education of the police and judicial community. If you have sexist people creating; enforcing and judging laws of course you're going to get unfair results. This is news to anyone?

I think both genders have reasons to complain-why not do something instead of just whining about it? Do you do anything political at all-do you even vote? If you don't-then you're part of the problem yourself.