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How can one possibly blame feminism for the current divorce laws?

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Why do men blame the child custody laws on feminism when children were historically always placed with their mothers? If anything feminism has started the process whereby males are recognized as equally important components in not only the family unit but also in the social development and emotional maturation of the children.

As well divorce laws have always divided the assets that have been obtained during the marriage 50/50 however whatever was owned before marriage reverts to the original owner.

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  1. Before the child custody case, Pennsylvania v. Addicks, 1813, it was an American legal principle that no matter what the cause of divorce, the father had the right to custody of all children if he asserted that right. There were few exceptions if the father asserted this right.

    The Pennsylvania v. Addicks case was significant in that it introduced the principle of deciding child custody based on "the best interests of the child."

    Unfortunately, the best interest of the child doctrine is subjective and ambiguous. Best interest doctrine is usually influenced by

    a) ideological movements such as feminism and

    b) third party organizations such as lawyers and psychotherapists.

    The majority of third party organizations are legal enforcers of feminist ideology.


  2. divorce is just a fuckd up thing in this world, i dont every want 2 experience it! but my cosines parents got a divorce, and the mother has the custody of them most the time. the reason in my opinion at least 4 women fighting 4 custody is because the husband/father has to pay a **** load of money to the wife/mother. and from what iv seen with my cosines their mother just uses the money to go on expensive vacations and buy lots of expensive things. once women get the children then get the money they change. they become greedy and evil, they act like there god, they dont spend the money from the husband on the kids when they should instead they use it 4 their own personal evil deeds.

    they dont care about the kids they only want their husbands money, its their way of getting payback!

    i dont know if anything i said made sense but just remember that its all my opinion based upon what iv seen and divorce is a *****!!!

  3. It's caled scapegoating, it has become a sport on this forum even an art form for some of the less in touch life forms.  unfortunately that sort of behaviour takes you on step further away from understanding yourself and the situation you find yourself in.

  4. The laws themselves are fine, for the most part; it's the way they are applied that's the problem. The judges are the ones behaving as if women are infallibly the better parent.

  5. Men hate that they and other men have to behave responsilby and blaming feminism or anything else works with a straw feminist argument.  At one time women who wanted an education were blamed for societies woes.

  6. As princess said its called scapegoating.  By demonizing feminism and equality men can remain having the upper hand.

  7. Feminism is the blame for the increase in divorce, the reason why half the women don't even want their kids and leave them behind for the husband or the grandparents to raise while they go off to find themselves, their freedom or whatever depraved life style they feel is better for them than a home and family.  

    Only California had division of 50/50 not all states had that whoever had the money and owned the most had it revertted back to them so the gold diggers(ie 2nd wife) weren't entitled to everything the family owned.

  8. The "No Fault " divorce is a direct product of feminism.

    Prior to the feminist movement ,divorces were 'granted or denied' based on each situation.

    Property settlements and child custody were also determined on an individual basis.

    Example, Then :

    If a woman had an extramarital affair , she would receive a very nominal settlement and probably not get custody.

    Today:

    She can s***w the entire Dallas Cowboys starting line up on the living room floor , sue her husband for divorce, take the kids and 2/3s of his wealth and get child support and alimony.


  9. Because it were feminists organisations (NOW) and self professed feminists who lobbied for them.

    No it is NOT true that the children were placed with the woman, you are misinformed, the children used to stay with the father after a divorce because he actually got to stay in the house he payed for, unlike nowdays.

  10. The people who are answering this question are not even using research.  These are myths that have been told for years and years so that their sons and daughters will be afraid of the feminist boogeywomyn.  It is pretty simple to check divorce laws from the 1930's onward and unless the mother was completely derelict the children stayed with her.  Not to mention the fact these children were not very likely to be supported by the father since there were no laws for any kind of child support.  For the person who claimed feminism brought about alimony.  This is so completely untrue it is laughable.  Why not blame feminism for male impotence as well.  Oh wait you already have.

  11. I agree that feminism is not responsible for our country's current family laws. That claim as well as yours saying that feminism is responsible for equaling the process of divorce are both delusional and untrue.

    A man who is behind on child support payments, but in the life of his child(ren) in every other way is a soon-to-be criminal and designated as a deadbeat dad by society. But a man who only gives money fullfilling his legal obligation gets a pass from moral obligations. As long as fathers are ATM machines, then everything is fine, but fathers who are caring but struggling are potential criminals.

  12. Well actually historically...if a divorce happened...the children went with the father 100% of the time.  Exwife went to the streets, or back to her parents.  16-1700 America.

    Feminism pushed the "no fault divorce" clause prior to this one of spouses had to cheat or do something really wrong and the other had to prove it. ...going even further back being sterile was a valid reason for divorce.

    However, statistically. (I know I'll get thumbs down and glares, i dont care it's true)

    divorce rates change from situation to situation...

    The highest divorce rate set up....Man in charge of household, getting married under 21, dating less then 2 years, and have a child in the first two years.  Humm sounds like traditional marriage.

    rotf...see told you they wouldn't like that.  If the man is solely in charge...you can up a couples chances of divorce by 30%

  13. Wow! What a load of spite directed at women!

    In the first place, marriage has a long history (I encourage you all to read a history of marriage), there are many forms of marriage, and divorce laws have changed a lot in the past 100 years. It wasn't until the Supreme Court ruling of the '60's that made it a crime for a man to rape his wife. This was a monumental shift.

    People always complain about the settlement in a divorce. The best idea is to sign pre-nup agreements so the limits are clearly set even before the marriage begins.

    The reason dead beat dads are harassed is not because of feminism. This came from stinking Fundies who hated (and still hate) single moms on welfare. The states agreed with the Fundies, as they often do, and now it's law.

    All the feminists I know have happy marriages and loving spouses. None of them have let a career stand in the way of becoming a mom.

    People need to love each other a whole lot more.

  14. For a start, feminists have a blind spot for negatives related to women and feminism.

    No, traditionally the father got the child, family law and social services are special areas of interest for feminist groups.

    Feminism has promoted the myth that men are the bad gender and the woman is always the victim, this led to the female positive bias through out society and special laws and privileges.

    See how they hijacked an all inclusive domestic violence movement and turned it into a smear campaign.

    "Pizzey's 'mistake' was to diverge from the theory of domestic violence that feminists at the time insisted dominate all discussion. She believed that men could also be the victims of domestic violence, and that women could be as violent toward their partners as men.

    Pizzey's views put her on a collision course with PC feminists who, according to Pizzey's own published account of events, initiated a campaign of harassment and violence against her." http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1975...

    Rape and wage gap misinformation is used to the same effect.

    http://www.freewebs.com/feminism-evaluat...

    These massaged figures are used to gain access to taxpayers money and the money is in turn used to lobby for laws that discriminate against men, many of these laws can be easily exploited without consequence to the female.

    eg VAWA, Man shouts back at his wife and he is an abuser, he can then be kept out of his child's life.

  15. Because a feminist's study was used in Supreme Court and other courts as reference to determine what divorced women go through as opposed to men. The trouble was that the study was wrong. She (Lenore Weitzman) later admitted that he study was flawed, but only after many came forward with the real numbers. She blamed it on her assistant.

    Before her bogus study, palimony/alimony was rare.

    I answered your question but you'll most likely thumb me down and not choose it, I expect that since you're not looking for answers and only looking to soap box.

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