How can we put the CO2/ AGW theory theory to rest?

Question

Hard observable evidence doesn't seem to work. AGW proponenets will just come up with an outlandish statements to explain away inconsistancies that common-folk won't be able to understand.

I hear that it's La Nina making it colder for instance. It seems to me if this CO2 theory is accurate as they claim, wouldn't it be plenty powerful enough to over-ride something as insignificant as a natural cycle?

According to some AGW proponents there's really no need to argue. After all they would have us believe oxymorons, such as global warming can cause global cooling.

I'm not sure how truth will prevail. ANy Ideas?

Answer 1

Actual scientific evidence would be a nice first step.  All the doubters have been promoting thus far is their own inability to understand complex systems (e.g. La Nina, climate vs. weather, solar output, regional vs. global temperature, etc.).

You see, science is complex (hence the necessity for significant education and experience).  When doubters, with neither education or experience, come along and claim the scientists are wrong about AGW because January was cold, that only demonstrates the doubters lack of knowledge, not the scientists errors.

Answer 2

It will die on its own, just like the dot-com boom, because it's equally unfounded, unsupported, and hollow.

But in the meantime, the best thing that people can do is take advantage of these dolts.  It only takes a little bit of money to create a "green-science" company, using Al Gore's science by consensus (and really, you can make up anything you want), and then pitch it to envirofundies to get them to invest in your idea.  

The wackier, the better!  (Like a special worm, newly discovered in the Brazilian rain forest, that converts CO2 to oxygenated drinking water.)  Be creative!!!

When enough of the smart people have created useless green science companies, eventually people will realize it was all a scam (just like happened at the end of the dot com era) -- but by then whomever the Democrat nominee is will get credit for a "booming economy". and no one will notice.

The dot-com era offered people a way to take away the hard-earned savings of people in the technology business world, mostly Republicans.  But this is a wonderful opportunity to take away the hard-earned savings of people who believe in AGW -- liberals and Democrats.  It would be a shame not to indulge them and their fantasies, and profit immensely!

(Besides, it is absolutely delicious when you scam a liberal with their own fake science, and they finally realize it after it's too late.  The look on their faces... PRICELESS.)

When enough liberals lose a lot of money to smart business people who are forming these green companies right now, that's when AGW will finally be put to rest.

Al Gore showed us the model (how to rip off the gullible).  He's reaping incredible fortunes with his green companies, with promised deliverables and proof of concept being offered for 20-50 years from you.  (Positively brilliant.)

So now is the time for every smart to profit from the igorance of the left-wing masses.

Answer 3

Sounds like you already have in your mind. It's too bad for you and Cindy that scientists are not supporting your wishes, much to your chagrin! Listen, we all want you to be happy, but you're not making it easy. Let science do it's work instead of thinking you know better. Hint...you don't!

Answer 4

Geez...how can we beat logic like that....?

You are so smart.

I see you really get it. You must of did great is science class....

What, do tell, suggests that the validity a theory makes it more powerful than another natural process.

Let us put this to a test:

The law of gravity makes things fall to the ground. How can a magnet pick things up against this proven force of gravity? IOt must be impossible, either magnets are a lie or this whole gravity thing is a scam from Al Gore!

Answer 5

As memory serves me, as long as the pockets are getting filled by the sheep buying into the mythos, the myth will continue to gather moss.

Politicians tend to be 10 years behind the curve on everything. Considering warming trend that occured in the 90s ended in 98 it tells you something.

As a life student of history we are still paying for depression era ponzi schemes. if that tells you something. While fact me be such that the Ponzi scheme is reaching the end the  government keeps digging deeper whole because they can't give up the myth because of one thing.. POWER.

the Green c**p is just another ponzi scheme.

Answer 6

All this global warming c**p will go the same way as global cooling in the 70s, the ozone layer scare of the 80s, save the rain forrest causes from the 80s and everything else these idiots try to perpetrate as fact.

Answer 7

No kidding willow!  They will simply attach themselves to some other stupid, worthless and costly cause that they will want everyone else to pay for.  It is pathetic how easily misled they are.  They whine and cry about conspiracy theories and yet, you throw a nicely formulated bunch of lies in a movie and a few million dollars, then they are the first panting dogs right there to drink the kool-aid.

Then justify it by saying c**p like, 'why would Al Gump lie?'  It has to be true if SO-MANY people believe it.  They forget n**i Germany and how they were misled and even incidents like the Guyana tragedy where a bunch of idiots killed themselves.  They are so naive to believe everything they hear and yet blame us for not following the obvious lies.

Answer 8

I think after around 15 years, when nothing has happened, people will probably begin losing interest in the whole dog show, and AGW will be but another failed doomsday prophecy.

Answer 9

The only way to put the AGW theory to rest would be for proper scientists to be heard and listened to.

Let science speak for itself.

Teach our children some basic science in schools and they would soon realize what a damaging farce this theory really is.

The problem is that by the time enough people had some education it would be too late.

All they will be able to do is to look back on this period of time and ask themselves 'How could a so-called advanced society be so stupid?'

We may still overcome this stupidity before it is too late by taking some of the following steps.

1) Vote! If you are able to vote, then VOTE!

2) Get involved with the scientific organizations which are trying to fight this lunacy like the NIPCC(Non-governmental International Panel on Climate Change) and the ICCC(International Climate Science Coalition)

3) Write to your politicians.

This may be more difficult than it sounds, since you would probably  need to explain things in a way that an 8 year old child could understand, but it might be worth trying.

4) Complain to your local television, and radio stations, and write letters to the editors of newspapers demanding rebuttals to pro AGW stories.

This will be much easier to do, and probably have much more impact than attempting number 3.

I honestly believe now that it is only a vocal minority, which has caused this mess.

I have to say that apathy has played a major part, and I can take some of that responsibility on my shoulders also.

When the original comments were being made back in the eighties about 'Global Warming', I just shrugged my shoulders and said to myself that these people, like Al Gore, were just idiots and that few would take it serious anyway!

If I thought for one minute that Al Gore was eventually going to be the head of a fanatical faith that would lead the world into complete chaos and destruction I would have tried to do something back then. I didn't, and now regret my inaction.

People can only be pushed so far before they reach their breaking point, no matter how patient they may be.

A good audio clip to listen to

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/images/a...

Find out more about the ICSC and get involved

http://www.climatescienceinternational.o...

Answer 10

They'd still say they're right if we dropped into a full on ice age.

What needs to be done is for all scientists from all fields, to work together.

Answer 11

It will never be done.  There's as much desire to prove "global warming" as to end poverty or drug usage.

Global warming, like the poor and drugs keeps the politicians busy, gives them bigger budgets, and more power.

By giving the gvmt the sole power to resolve "global warming" is to insure that "global warming" fears continue for the rest of your life.

Money will be spent and no results will be seen for the money wasted.