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How come Saudi arabia has a birth rate of 4.5 although women are not treated ?

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all that great and Sweden and England have a birthrate lower than the replacement level 2.1, although the women there have all those rights protection and opportunities ?

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  1. Saudi Arabia is an evil Muslim country where there they really do treat women badly.

    h**l using the term "badly" is perhaps the biggest understatement I have made lately.

           I think camels have more rights there than women, it is a horrible, deplorable situation.

              


  2. Maybe Women from Sweden and England are more Career focused and do not have as much time/energy to raise a larger family.

  3. Generally speaking, higher education = fewer children.

  4. Because in most countries today, women have the option of not having children (thankfully). I mean socially, not just in terms of contraception. Which, in all honesty, just throws the theory about all women being 'maternal' and good housewives etc out the window. Don't worry, the rest of the world will catch up soon, and things will even out. I have faith in a positive future for all women in this world, of all races!

    Edit: I think you may want to listen to what people are saying. WE DO NOT ALL WANT TO HAVE NO LIFE OTHER THAN HAVING LOADS OF SCREAMING KIDS WITH SELFISH MEN!!! There, I've said it. In all honesty, who cares about the future? WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF TODAY, OUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS COUNT, MORE THAN PEOPLE WHO DO NOT AND WILL NEVE EXIST!!. We have the right to say no to kids. This is fantastic. I owe the future NOTHING, neither do you or anyone else, for that matter. Sorry, but I don't know how you can't understand that?

  5. Edit @ all the other posters: Oh I would say none of you have any idea of what you are talking about. Yet, you all got your jaws a flapping in the wind. I could draw each and every one of you a picture with the brightest colors in the world and you would still be blind. I could give you true life accounts as to how these men over here are capable of revering their wives; only it would fall upon deaf ears. I could mention that the worse drivers are in Jeddah, and the further east you go, such as coming to Damman where I live you will find it a bit more relaxing. Why should I tell you? Don't count on me being that stupid.

    From now don't be so stupid.  Right now with any of you I could say camels talk and all of you would believe me. That's exactly how stupid you are.

    I would strongly suggest that when you all go to the bathroom make sure you didn't leave your brains behind.

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    Cassius you are right there are contraceptives in Saudi Arabia; and I, also believe there is the little miracle pill known as The Pill here.  Personally, I didn't have 5 kids because I live here; all my life I wanted 5 kids, and I very happily got my 5 kids.

    Perhaps, the answer is they love children; it could be as simple as that.

  6. I don't actually understand the question because of course the birthrates are much higher in countries where women are objects and controlled by men...women have NOTHING else but being baby factories and man doormats to do in those countries.

    When women have the right to control their own lives and fertility, they make better decisions economically for themselves and part of that is fewer children.  It is certainly easier to raise fewer children and it is better on a woman's body as well to have fewer pregnancies.  

  7. There's nothing much Saudi women can do with their lives but have children. Educated women generally have less children. I consider this a good thing.

  8. Huh? Isn't the answer blindingly obvious? When women have more control over their reproduction of course they're going to have less kids - most women don't actually enjoy being pregnant and popping kids out every other year for twenty years. And obviously contraception plays a huge part as well - where women have access to contraception in developing countries, birth rate goes down. Voila!

  9. Cassius, are you retarded or something?  When women don't have the right to protect their bodies, of course they're going to have more babies.  The men in Saudi Arabia don't give a **** how hard a pregnancy is on a woman's body, they just treat women as if that's the only thing they can do with their body, and it's pretty sick.

  10. I thought this would be obvious.  In a society that has more equal rights, children are born less often.  It doesn't mean that the society is doomed to die out.  Birth rates rise and fall.  If the rate is low now, it'll rise in a couple of years.  In Sweden or England, women can get a job, have a life, and have an identity that does not solely revolved around being a mother.  Thereas she is less likely to have many children.  In Saudi Arabia, where there is no form of birth control practiced and women's entire identity is tied to the house and hearth, they are far more likely to have children 1) because its hard to prevent and 2) because they have nothing else to do (to a degree.  A great many Saudi Arabia women find a way to have a life despite the restrictions, but its not like the lives of the free women in Sweden and England).

    And don't be ridiculous-- IF and when there is a problem with population (the reverse that we have now seeing as we're far too overpopulated), women will start having more children again.  You lack of history astounds me.  Something similar happened to the Romans.  Some Romans were having less and less children so the government of the time stressed having more kids.  The Spartans also did everything within their power to make their people have more children when their population grew low.

    So dropping population is not even an effect of simply women's rights.  Its been going on in different places at different times for thousands of years.

    EDIT-- One, it was BEFORE Christianity and two, they did not assure women were barefoot and pregnant.  Don't assume things about history if you don't know it.  What they did (and what the Spartans did as well) was give greater benefits and incentives for families to have more children.  They didn't MAKE women give birth, they just made it more appealing.  

    And so no, the government would NOT make women barefoot and pregnant.  They would offer some form of monetary compensation or material benefit that would make having more children more appealing.  Really, that's all a government would need to do (and has done in the past).

    And yes, birth rates rise and fall-- magically if you want to call it that.  Baby boom anyone?  And thirty years of birth rate falling is nothing to worry about.  Nothing is stable when it comes to government, war, and economy.  Things will get shaken up again eventually (be it economically or politically) and birth rates will change.  Its always been that way.   It will always be that way.

    EDIT-- Oh, and just to add and clarify--since you seem a bit lacking in this area and making strange assumptions-- the Spartans actually GAVE women more rights in order in encourage birth rate rises.  They encouraged women to take part in sports, military training with men, wear less constrictive clothing, and even take as many lovers they wanted (while still married).

  11. I came to saudi vacationing this summer.horrible driving.,and I think they are doing women a favor her for not driving.If her car broke down or something.She would be gang raped.It's really sad,that these people call themselves muslims.

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