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How come everyone thinks guns are used for protection?

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Yeah some are but a lot of them aren't its making me mad there is sport shooting and hunting and just to have some fun. Not everyone will shoot another person.

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  1. Zach,

       Gun ownership is under attack.  It has been under attack for 40+ years.  People who like hunting, sports shooting and 'fun' are very quick to point to defensive firearms - so called assault weapons - and yell at the top of the mountains how they are not good for hunting, sports shooting and fun.  These are the people responsible for the loss of our gun rights.

        The 2nd Ammendment says nothing about Hunting, Sporting Events or even fun.  If this was important to our founding fathers they would have put it in the Bill of Rights like everything else.  Instead, they included the 2nd Ammendment so the people of the United States would have a means to defend themselves against harm and against an abusive government if necessary.

        Gun owners who like hunting, sporting, and 'fun' have forgotten these roots.  They try to justify the ownership by saying it is 'good for hunting' and hope the anti-gunners will go away and bother somone else who owns guns that are 'bad for hunting'.   Truth is - you name any gun, I can find a place in the US where it is not good for hunting...... and that means any group or politician from another part of the US could determine it should be banned.

        The only reason people who enjoy hunting, shooting sports and 'fun' still have a firearm in their hands is because of the legal challenges and hard work people who want a gun to keep for personal protection have been fighting the past 40 years in the courts.  And because hunters and sport shooters have not gotten behind the personal defense owners - legal battle in places like California - have been lost.

       The recent Heller vs. DC Supreme Court decision - brought on by a personal defense shooter - has verified our right to ownership and written it in stone.  If firearm ownership in the US had been left up to the hunters, sports shooters and fun shooters we would currently be just like Australia.......... getting permission from the local chief of police to own a pellet gun.

       The bottom line.  Hunters, sports shooters and fun shooters have had thier head in the legal sand a very long time.  Happy to give up assault rifle owners to the wolves.... hoping someone else would loose guns - but never theirs - because theirs are good, right?  I have never meet an anti-gunner that mentioned any particular gun as being exempt.  In their eyes they all need to be destroyed, banned, and allowed for police and military use.  

         Hunters, sport shooters and fun shooters have been playing the sacrifice game with anti-gunners.  Every year for the past 40 some design or shooting facet has been restricted.  These owners and shooters need to get behind the personal defense shooters and help toe the line.  The anti-gunners are starting to run out of victims - now hunting and competitions firearms are on their radar - don't wait until the wolf is knocking on your door.

    People who hunt, sports shoot, fun shoot, and think shooting somone is bad...... that is normal. However - in the eyes of the court - there is no such thing as firearm ownership rights to hunt, sports shooting and fun.  These activities can only exist so long as personal ownership of firearms for defense are legal.  Hunters, sports and fun shooters need to stand shoulder to shoulder with the defensive shooters and owners.

    Hope this answers your question.


  2. "How come everyone thinks guns are used for protection?"

    When was the last time you saw the liberal media talk about firearms on the news where they did not mention V.P. d**k Cheney or Self Defense or some criminal shooting somebody?

    "Yeah some are but a lot of them aren't"

    You are correct, My coach gun is my primary home defender

    That's why I bought it. My Bird gun is not for defense its for birds.

    "Not everyone will shoot another person"

    If that where only the case....

    I never want to have to even think about pointing mine at another person, but that does not mean I would not defend my family with one.

    Back to your question...

    Firearms, guns are the big things on ships, only get into the media and the main stream public eyes when something bad happens (someone gets hurt).

    If any media outlet where to air 5 minutes of a skeet or trap competition once a month there would be lines at the ranges for people to learn about it.

    So i think the question should be...

    What has caused our society to become so soft that firearm ownership is classified as a sub-culture.

  3. Ya think ya put enough bait on that question there buddy?

    Don't think that if a hunter or sport shooters home is invaded by a criminal bent on doing them harm that there won't be a shooting. The hunter and sport shooter will protect themselves and their family with whatever arms are avalible to them.

    There is a term for those who wouldn't.

    They are referred to as "victims".

    You're trying to seperate guns into categories.

    That's a tactic of the anti-gun crowd.

    A 12 gauge deer slug or a .300 Win Mag. long range target rifle is much more deadly than the average "self defense" handgun. Not as compact though. Not as concealable.

    But a competitive "action match" handgun shooter's gun IS just as concealable. In most cases they use the same guns used for self-defense. The courses they shoot are designed as self-defense scenerios.

    So where do you draw the line?

    Why would you want to?

    Like I say, that's a tactic of the anti-gunners.

    You wouldn't be one of them, would you?

    If not, you should consider that what's important is we have the right in America to own guns for whatever purpose. You shouldn't attempt to place limitations on that right. Doing so is playing right into the anti-gunners hands.

  4. Zack, I'm not understanding your question?  Sure guns are used for defense.  Frequently these are just weapons of opportunity.  A sporting shotgun normally used to shoot clay pigeons can make a terrific home-defense weapon.  A .22 target pistol can also be called into service for defensive purposes lacking another weapon.  Same with a deer rifle.  If all I had to fend off a home invader was my .458 Winchester Magnum, then I would not hesitate to rely on it.  Hopefully the size would be sufficient to intimidate the intruder without having to fire a shot!

    H

  5. Why does that make you angry? Some people have no intrest in recreational shooting or hunting, they just want protection.

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