How did cadaver get on an item of Madeleine’s clothing?

Question

What are the chances of these 2 dogs being wrong on the same day in the same very high profile case, there can be no question of the PJ manipulating these dogs as the handler was British.

Impressive CV: Eddie and Keela have been used more than 200 cases around the world, including with the FBI; approved "with distinction" in test realized at the "Body Farm", FBI/USA, the only place in the world authorized to use human cadavers for training.

Used in these famous cases: Attracta Harron (N Irland), Amanda Edward, Charlotte Pinkney (British/Eddie detected a spot where the cadaver had only "momentarily" been laid), Haut de la Garenne.... These two dogs, as a team, are unique in all the world.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/08/dog-detects-car-of-mccann-couple.html

http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=20237&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=cadaver+scent+on+madeleine+clothes

Answer 1

When you have the Prime Minister,the Foreign Secretary,the Home Secretary,the British media, the Labour party spin machine,four high powered lawyers  and two billionaires behind you it is possible to hide anything.

Answer 2

Faith

They work best within 48 hours as the smell fades, however these dogs smelt death, so it doesn't matter how long if they CAN smell it

Chew on that for awhile...

Answer 3

This is a lovely story about a couple of dogs, but, where is there anything about "cadaver on clothing"??? the links you give to back your question dont work: one comes up blank, the other demands registration. If you could explain in your own words what you are talking about, you would get a better answer.

As it stands, I can only say that "cadaver" means "dead body" so would not be on anyone's clothing. Traces or smell of it might be. However as far as I know someone just dead a few minutes smells the same, even to a dog, as someone still alive. It takes a fair few hours for the "dead" smell to start developing.

From my reading of murder stories, generally the bodies are left/dumped in whatever they were wearing at the time, so their left-behind clothing would not have a dead body smell. As your links were unusable, I don't know what the significance of this might be in this case, as I have not been following all that closely.

Answer 4

I haven`t said a lot lately. To be honest I`m sick of going over the same stuff & trying to make people see this whole thing they way I do.

I find it very tiring & it really doesn`t get us anywhere. If the PJ have put it on hold a while, I can understand.

BUT I will say that I believe that this is the biggest, most contaminated, government aided unlawful sickening COVER UP I have ever heard of. Please somebody put some of them in jail until they crack, or this will just go round in circles.

To answer your question. I believe the dogs & I think most of us know how the smell got on Madeleine`s clothing. & all the other places the dogs alerted to.

Answer 5

AND that profession says that these dogs are right 99% of the time and that is beyond resasonable doubt to me.

As for "Faith's"  48 hour time limit, the longer you leave such evidence (cadaver scent) the more difficult it is to detect as surely the scent dissipates with time, right ?  So that 48 hr thing by Faith doesn't stick, does it ?!

Answer 6

Great question. These two dogs are 100% correct.Poor Maddy died in flat 5A ,Eddie and Keela know it. the PJ know it and the McCanns certainly know it. All the recent "sightings" are just a smoke screen to stop the important facts such as cadaver dogs and photos on paper not available in PDL from getting into the papers.

Instead of nit picking why don't some folks on her sign up to the 3Arguidos site and read the info on there. It does not cost anything to register.?

Bring in the clones.......... I couldn't have put it better myself !!!!

Faith....so Kate goes to work in her shorts and t shirt and carries cuddle cat does she ? Try again.

Answer 7

DID WE ALL MISS THIS BIT THEN?

On the locations and the pieces that were marked and signaled by the blood dog, forensics tests were performed, especially at a reputed British laboratory (Forensic Science Service – check Appendixes I and VII – FSS Final Report) but also, some of them at the reputed National Institute of Forensics Medicine (check Appendix I), whose final results did not corroborate the canine markings, which is to say, cellular material was collected that WAS NOT IDENTIFIED AS PERTAINING TO ANYONE SPECIFIC,AND IT WAS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE TO DETERMINE THE QUALITY OF THAT MATERIAL(v.g. whether it could be blood or another type of bodily fluid).

OR THIS

the possibility of a match between the DNA profile of MADELEINE and some of the collected residues (among which those that existed in the Renault Scenic that had been rented by the McCANN couple were abundant) was raised; a match which, as can be verified in the aforementioned final report from the FSS, FAILED TO BE VERIFIED, after the execution of long and complex testing.

Not that reliable after all then?

Answer 8

Strange you fail to mention here that Eddie & Keela's handlers themselves pointed out that the dogs worked best within 48hours of the abduction crime. They weren't at the crime scene within 48hours. Chew on that for awhile...

Edit: The reason why the handlers pointed out the dogs worked best within 48hours of the abduction crime is NOT that the scent would fade away...its bcos after that the dogs senses are liable to be confused. And as much as you hate to admit, thats what happened. No, Shambo, dogs don't lie, but they do get confused.  Kate, it seems had met with 6 patients who died shortly before their vacation. Surely, that could have led to some of the confusion?

You guys are barking up the wrong tree...again.

Answer 9

Faith chew on the fact that dogs don't lie.  

Answer 10

well, i know there is some confusion over whether kate has actually worked since dec 2006, it has never been confirmed that she has actually worked since then, this i believe is one of the questions she refused to answer, and this is also one of the requests by the P.J to be knocked back by our british police (along with bank statements and health records etc) .. and as everyone else says, 6bodies for a PART TIME G.P ..well is she related to Harold ...by any chance?? ..cadaver odour is not the thing that stinks in this sad case!!!!

Answer 11

I would believe Eddie and Keela any day rather than the McCanns

Answer 12

faith im not trying to be smart, but you say kate met with six patients who died shortly before they went on hols, my brother in law works in a funeral palour and six in a week or so is unusual, are you sure of these facts , it seems an awful lot , i tend to believe the dogs, and just cant swallow the kate story to be honest