How did oil get under Greenland if the north pole was never meant to be warm? Fossil fuels in high latitutes?

Question

How did the lush jungles fossilize into oil deposits in Greenland?

Obviously, it's normal for temperatures to fluxuate on earth, but the global warming n***s are screaming and pissing their pants blaming humans for everything.

I suppose there were evil men driving SUV's in Greenland making the island hot enough to produce vegetation?

Answer 1

You're talking about logical fallacies but I can see at least three within your statements (Red Herring, Straw Man, Appeal to Emotion).  I am inclined to think that much of what is said supporting Global Warming is mass hysteria that is based on bad logic and little or no fact.  But that doesn't mean you can argue against it so badly.  Try calming down a little bit and thinking things through.

Answer 2

Were you aware that over the 3-5 billion years of earth history, the contents have moved around quite a bit (actually, all over the place)?  The name for it is plate tectonics.

I think this question shows why a good basic science education is a must for US schools.  If your typical 8th grader can't answer this, there is a real problem in the school systems!

Answer 3

I am not sold on this climate change being necessarily a trend that will in a few years risk the lives of people everywhere.  That is kind of science fiction.  Additionally, that movie made about New York freezing over was poor science and they went out of their way to depict the vice president as some evil corporate guy.   The politics were clearly evident and disturbing.   You know Hollywood advances their agenda by their films.

One example was Talledega Nights,  the Ballad of Rickey Bobby.  Even his name suggests redneck and NASCAR.  Then the protagonist is a g*y frenchman.  Those two things are definitely not what you think of when you think about stock car racing.

In the same way,  The Day After Tomorrow,   the climatologist insults the American Vice President, saying in effect,  that we can't wait to see what happens because there is a crisis and this was before the changes in the movie happened.

Now is there any warming occuring now?  There are signs of that but just because Al Gore gets a Nobel and John McCain is all about Kyoto,  doesn't make either person right.  Since when have politicians stopped being politicians and even lying?   Ask Hillary about those snipers or Obama's 57 states.

All I know, as a nearly 30 year veteran Meteorologist,  is that manmade theory seems to rule out simple fluctuations in climate and or normal changes we cannot control,  like volcanoes and plate techtonics.

Answer 4

SUV drivers and plate tectonics can both have an impact on climate. It's a logical fallacy to assume that only one thing can cause a particular phenomena (e.g. warming climate).

Edit:

Please provide a link to whomever you think said: "that the earth was never warm until "man" came around and "ruined" everything."  If you can find one, I'll agree with you that they were wrong, but until them I must assume that you are merely blowing smoke and have no basis for your ranting.

Answer 5

The latest ice age only started 3 million years ago.

http://anthropology.si.edu/humanorigins/...

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For most of the history of earth there was no ice at the poles

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Ima...

The definition of a ice age is when there is ice at the poles.

We are in a ice age and that is a abnormal condition if you look at the history of earth.

So how can global warming be a problem if earth  is now a abnormal cold period. and the normal earth temperature is 5 to 10 degrees higher.

Those who don't study history are bound to get future  wrong.

Answer 6

A long time ago the poles were tropical rain forests.  Source DISCOVERY CHANNEL BEFORE DINOSAURS (or something like that).

Answer 7

its a conspiracy u see them suv driving big oil executives were trying to heat up Greenland so vegetation would grow and turn into oil so they could drill in Greenland therefore making themselves even more rich very ingenious plan indeed

or maybe its magic :/

Answer 8

Greenland was indeed once in the tropics and migrated northward due to plate tectonics.  That being said, in my opinion, a better explanation for the formation of petroleum, high grade coal, and methane hydrates is that they formed from methane out gassing from the original accretion (formation) of the earth.  This methane then encountered a deep hot biosphere that transformed much of it to the petroleum.  Methane also formed high grade coal, natural gas deposits and methane hydrates.  It is the "abiotic" theory of "fossil fuel" formation.  I am in the minority of American geologist that believe this theory is the best explanation.  Under this theory, the latitude of Greenland has no importance.

Answer 9

Humans tend to be arrogant, short sighted and myopic, most people can't think past Last night American Idol let alone think about our presence in the length of earth's history.

The human race(as we know it) has been around more or less for between 300,000-100,000 years (depending on your definition of human) , the earth  has been around for 4.6 billion years. Life has ONLY been on the planet for around 600 million years.

In the scheme of things we are gnats on the a*s of brontosaurus.

I believe our planet is much more resilient then the econuts want the dumb masses to believe.

I don't agree with the global warming mythos..

Plate tectonics played a large role in the formation of all things under the ground and how it moved into it's present location over the last 4.6 billion years.  Actually the plate tectonics exists regardless of the climate, climate variations are due mostly to 2 things, 1. Solar Output and 2. Our proximity in elliptical orbit and apehelion, perihelion positions in that orbit.

Oil Formation and Coal Formation occured during a time when the continents were one large continent sitting near the equator, creating in areas large rain forests for millions and 10s of millions of years.  

Does the Earth's temperature fluctuate? Yes, can humans influence it on a global basis that is the question. In the scheme of things, as I see it for me or my children and grandchildren it won't matter.

Yes the econazis are no better then the catholic church during the understanding of the heliocentric solar system. And are being a pain in the butt.. Global Warming Alarmists are religionists and Green is their God. It is an economic and political movement not one based in "Real Science" of discussion, debate and investigation. Scientists who call for this are labeled deniers and don't get or lose funding as the result.

EDIT:

I can't tell whether based on the comments the original poster is making whether his comments are tongue in cheek or ignorance, tongue is ok. Say so, but if you don't understand geology perhaps you need to visit a community college and expand your understanding of basic geology.

I can't stand ignorance about history or geology. Something about ignorance on these subjects stirs me to the core. Partly because the Alarmists are in large part doing the same ignorant view of our planet without so much as one piece of valid and provable evidence.

And trying to make a point about global warming without scientific evidence is no better then what Al Gore and his ilk are doing.

the formation of coal and oil occured over a long period, much of the coal formed during the carboniferous period, oil formation continues to occur...

Between 345 million year and 290 million years ago, our "continents" looked very much different.

This is based on measureable scientific evidence. (Contrary to the global warming alarmists purport..)

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/carbonifero...

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/namM345.jpg

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/namP290.jpg

For me it is telling a persons ignorance when they assume our earth's land masses have not changed one iota over the length our planet has existed.

Answer 10

LOL its good to know the Earth has been around 4000 years before Christ was born. The earth is MILLIONS, even BILLIONS of years old. And if your not scared enough to read something that might change your ideas, then check out the website. That talks about ice AGES, meaning more than one. So who was driving the SUV's around with the dinosaurs? It also talks of a time when there was no ice at all, a perfect chance to form oil anywhere. I wish I had saved the website but i was reading on another one that so long as the land bridge between the Americas is there it will continue to be more ice ages do to the ocean currents.

Answer 11

It's actually because of plate tectonics. Greenland wasn't always where it is now. The continents and land masses are constantly moving, and at one point nearly all the land mass above sea level was near the south pole.

Your ignorance of this shows why you have no credibility when it comes to denying Global warming. The scientists who study global warming NEVER said the earth was not warm until man warmed it. Thats just a statement you made up in your own ignorant mind.

Answer 12

You really don't know much, do you.  Um, dude, the earth is more than 6000 years old.  Nuf said.  Good night and good luck.

edit:

look up plate tectonics, axis precession and paleoclimatology and call me back.

edit 2:

oh yeah, hydrocarbons are extruded from the earth naturally, nothing to do with the carbonaceous period, nothing to worry about.  Ah, Jim, doesn't matter where it came from, if we pump it all into the atmosphere at once with our piston engines, it's a problem.

Answer 13

So no one believes in migration, creatures who can withstand polar temperatures and more life than we can ever begin to catalogue living in our oceans (you know, below the ice...)?

Just curious.

Answer 14

Very good question.

I could play the devils advocate and try to come up with some BS that might sound good if I lived in 'Academia Land'.

I'm afraid that I live in the real world and have some basic intelligence.

It will be interesting to see how many lunatics attack your comments(and mine).

They are still out there.

The problem is that they actually either do not understand or accept basic science, and a comment like yours, or any facts, are simply another 'Inconvenient Truth'!

Edit:

Actually bubba makes a valid point about plate tectonics.

Greenland may not have been as far north as it is today.

Actually all of the land masses are in constant movement.

If they weren't we would not have the earthquakes that we experience.

The facts however indicate that the entire earth was much warmer thousands of years ago than it is today.

Antarctica was also a temperate environment until the Americas land mass finally broke away and left it isolated to be the cold desert that it is today.