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How did the Russia Georgia war start

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i have heard 19 ways the war started i just wanted to known how it sparked i heard that georgia attack their the cut contry and killed 10 Russia peace keepers and then Russia attacked Georgia on the olimpics? is that right yes /no if no can you tell me. ps thanks

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  1. It started with Ossetian Provocations on the de facto borders. However, After little shootouts Georgia declared unilateral cease fire. It lasted several hours but Ossetian separatists - or let me say the ones that did not wish to stop - continued shooting and taking "lives of Georgian villagers".

    Georgia was alarmed and decided to "restore constitutional order" in the region or maybe they meant over the ones that did not stop shooting. Anyhow, that is what Russians waited for so long and decided to "make them pay" (Vladimir Putin) for what they did. (what they did on their OWN sovereign territory.)

    It was easy for them to mobilize troops because they have been stationed near the borders for WEEKS.

    -http://mnweekly.ru/news/20080718/5533837... -  

    prompting Georgia to think it was a well pre planned provocation. and that is what I think. Russia does not want Georgia to enter NATO. Russia does not want stable Georgia. I am sure they will find something with Ukraine too. Things like pro Russian region Crimea in Ukraine and so on and so forth to mount tensions and Black mail them. Very aggressive. War criminals !


  2. 1st thing: whoever claims just one side is at fault - is a fool.

    2nd - Georgia is nothing but a pawn in the clash of the giants (West , USA vs. East, Russia)

    Russia provoked the situation because Georgia becomes largely pro-western and pro-American (particularly the president, not the people of Georgia), which is a threat to Russian growing ambitions.

    USA also provokes the situation by placing it's PRO complexes around Russia. If Georgia becomes a member of NATO that's a direct threat to Russia.

    So Russian plan was most likely to replace the current president and his government in Georgia. And you have to realize current government only came to power with American help.

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    Don't want  go in detail of the whole South Ossetia situation, however, the region is very diverse.There were always conflicts.

    It's very easy to spark up a conflict there, which will grow into something bigger like right now. Big boys will always use this in their big boys interests.

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    Also USA is exactly the same way for all the american brainwashed vegetables.

    Situation in Kosovo / Yugoslavia in 97 is 100% replica of a current situation. Only then USA was bombing a beautiful country of Yugoslavia, killing civilians and military.

  3. lets face the truth, i guess not so much civil people in whole world wanted this war, even georgians and russians (dont wanna say anything about ossetians) did not and do not now. And only lil mind-f*cked scumbag named saakashvili, who think that he can do everything he wants to do get started this war. And most of you and maybe me know nothing about both of these countries, about its history, culture. But taking an active part in discussion about this war, in fact knowing nothing about all of this...

    we want to live in love united

  4. It depends on who's side of the story you want. Russia accuses Georgia of attacking them but Georgia says it was only trying to keep contested land that was rightfully theirs. Two different stories.

  5. It is simple, big guy pushes little guy around

  6. georgia wants south ossetian land

    georgia goes in bombing civilians in south ossetia, basically creating a genocide of the people.

    south ossetia asks russia for help

    russia goes into georgia to fight back

    georgia plays the "we did nothing" card and asks for help from nato and the us

    everyone views russia as the bad guys.

    simple, and sick.

  7. I'm from republic of Georgia, I would like to tell you people that situation is really bad over here, but we are calm.

    I'm sure that nobody believes Russian lies any more, the world knows what is going on here, they know we didn't want this war to come, we have children, families here - this is not our choice!

    The war started because osetians opened fire on our villages, it was well organized provocation planned by Russians. In this situation we had nothing more to do then defend our citizens!

    Russians are saying that their citizens live in osetia... this is ironic, if they are afraid for the life of their citizens they would have evacuated them as soon as the shooting started, all countries who care about their citizens are evacuating people from Georgia because situation is dangerous, so what do you think should America leave their citizens in Georgia and make up a reason to get involved in war, saying that "americans in republic of Georgia are endangered"?

    One more question - what were russian citizens doing in osetia, where did they get Georgian vizas, as you know this is "De jure" Georgian territory so russian citizens had to get vizas while living there, otherwise they didn't had right to be in osetia!

    And again comes a question - civilians in Cxinvali died because it was bombed, as you know our military airports were bombed beginning from august 8th, we couldn't take our planes in to air because of that, so how could we bomb Cxinvali? Cxinvali was bombed by Russians, they knew that civilians were still hiding in buildings, but they didn't care as long as they were destroying our soldiers, everything else (including human lives, lives of civilians: children, women) did not matter for them.

    Russians are bombing our cities far away from conflict zone, they can't explain why they are doing this, on TV they are saying that are doing this because of military strategic objects (military airports, military bases) but actually they are bombing civilians, homes, children, women are dying here, two days ago a pregnant women died in city of Gori! my friend saved 4 year old girl from the basement of crushed building - this is the real face of so called Peace-keepers, this is the real face of Russia!

    Russians are talking about Genocide of osetians - this is somewhat true, because they (russians) were the ones who bombed Cxinvali for 3 days - Cxinvali does not exist any more!

    Georgians left Cxinvali because there was nothing more to defend, russians did not give a d**n that osetian civilians (women, children) were hiding in the basements of buildings at the time there were bombing the city. Georgians asked for corridor to take civilians from Cxinvali to safe place.

    I'm not thinking of leaving country, this is my HOME, my home country, the only thing I'm going to do is send my children to my parents in US (they are citizens), my mom says she's going to come to Azerbaijan (because flying directly to Georgia is becoming dangerous) and take children to U.S.

    I'm staying here because my husband, my friends are going to stay here to defend our country.

    It's not about South Osetia any more... it never was, Russia wants to get hold of Georgia, but this pie is going to turn very bitter for Russians, we came to 21th century keeping our language, homeland and religion, fighting with number of conquerors and we will loose our lives before we loose our country, we'll defend Georgia to last breath!

    The only way you people can help us right now, is to tell the world about what is going on in Georgia, everybody must know what Russia is doing here!

    As long as God is on our side nobody can defeat us, we are defending our homes from people who killed children in Beslan, who killed their own citizens (hostages) in "Nord-Ost" incident.

    Truth is on our side and we are more stronger and braver than ever!

    Today as always I'm proud to be Georgian!

  8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasDmPo9R...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE1WNJOfn...



      here is ''rough'' online translation from russian comment-



    assails В М М ЕЮТ, on time-two-rub it is possible to prove, that war is not necessary to Russia:

    1. In Russia all is fine with economy. In America practically a default. Their duty of 9 000 000 000 000 dollars. Because of war at all of us the markets have fallen, and at them-surprising in the image!-grow for the first time for 2 months.

    2. In Georgia there are no resources necessary for Russia. Even from the point of view of geoposition Crimea is much more convenient. Why we do not go it to grasp?:)

    3. Medvedev was in holiday, Putin on Olympiad. If we planned war, they would be in Moscow

  9. i think u should listen to both sides and then decide yourself. Get your own arguments.

  10. Georgia, on Friday night started shelling South Osetia with heavy artilery and killed around 2000 people most of whom are Russian citizens. By constitution russia was obliged to retaliate to Russia sent in troops. Now US is using propoganda to make Russia look like a bad guy. Check out thi website www.russiatoday.com or search RT russia today english news on google, it give a nice video about what happened.

  11. Georgia started this war probably with Washington's backing.  It's about oil again.  Georgia and Ossetia are major pipeline transit spots that supply Europe.  What I find interesting is that there is barely a mention that Israel has been training the Georgian military and supplying them with weapons.  Also there are 1500 US troops / military advisers currently in Georgia.  The US just finished conducting a war game with Georgia just prior to their invasion of South Ossetia.  Russia is not going to take anyone nonsense anymore with Putin in charge. I think the US wanted to see how far they could push things to gauge the Russian response.  Well they saw that the Russians will push back if they are shoved.  Georgia should had let South Ossetia go - they don't want to be part of Georgia but Georgia doesn't want to lose any control of the pipelines.  There a lot more moving parts to this thing than the US press is talking about.  As for US political bumblers McCain and Obama - they are clueless.  McCain talks tough like a war monger and Obama talks stop the aggression against the defender.  God help us with these kinds of political idiots leading this nation.

  12. well some people are saying really stupid stuff on here.

    RUSSIA started the whole thing.

    end of story and they need to leave georgians alone.

  13. McCain and Obama when talkin about Georgia, Bothe were defending Democracy in this country. Unlike Afganistan and Iraq, ruled by criminal gangs and Dictators, Georgia has Legitime gvrmnt. Russia needed reason to invade Georgia because of it's ambitions to become NATO and EU member. Russia is afraid that in this case NATO will border it from the south also. S. Ossetia and Abkhazia are only reasons. on 1993 Russians made hundred of thousands of Georgians to leave their homes in this regions and become refugees in their own country. Many Georgians still live in S. Ossetia and abkhazia and Russians by shooting this Civilian Georgians provocated Georgian government which was trying to defend it's people and territory. Russia has a dream to become New world Leader and rebuild New Soviet Union!

  14. Poeple, if you are really interested in this situation first of all you need to undestand some facts:

    what russian army did to the same kind of republic like Ossetia, to Chechnya. You also need to obtain the video of that time, I'm talking about Chechnya.  You will understand how savagely russain army killed chechen people.

    Poeple, if you are really interested in this situation first of all you need to undestand some facts:

    what russian army did to the same kind of republic like Ossetia, to Chechnya. You also need to obtain the video of that time, I'm talking about Chechnya.  You will understand how savagely russain army killed chechen people.

    http://russian-genocide-over-chechen-peo...

    (scroll down, you will see pictures).

    You also need to obtain how savagely they were killing people in Czech in 1968.

    You need to learn what kind of organisation is KGB and its leader, today's prime minister (former Russian president) V. Putin.

    Please learn about all these facts (whatever I just listed) and you will understand what kind of nation is Russia, what kind of peacemakers they are.

    After contact me and I will tell you abou Georgia.

    You also need to obtain how savagely they were killing people in Czech in 1968.

    You need to learn what kind of organisation is KGB and its leader, today's prime minister (former Russian president) V. Putin.

    Please learn about all these facts (whatever I just listed) and you will understand what kind of nation is Russia, what kind of peacemakers they are.

    After contact me and I will tell you abou Georgia.

  15. From the very beginning:

    In early 90th when USSR collapsed, Georgia has become an independent state within administrative borders of former Georgian republic of USSR.

    First president of Georgia was quite a stubborn nationalist, try to google for "Zviad Gamsakhurdia" . He tried to enforce dominance of georgian nation (language, culture et.c.), minorities have gone rebel. Three regions have declared independence: Adjaria, Abkhaz, and Southern Osetia.

    Adjaria was later subjugated by force, but other two have managed to win war theyr wars for independence. There were savage atrocities, both done by georgians and by rebels.

    This explains why Osetia and Abkhaz did they best to stay independent, as all georgian leaders (Schevarnadze and now Saakashvili) were eager to 'reintegrate' lands. Reintegrating people

    seems impossible due to degree of hatred between them.

      Combined russian-georgian peace keepers were stationed in the areas, according to peace treaties.

    Modern Georgia is a tiny republic with $1billion military budget, in order to modernize armed force to join NATO, off course. btw according NATO membership rules, state must settle any territorial claims before joining. So there are to options:

    1) Abandon hope of ever regaining rebel provinces.

    2) Do this ASAP, before december (Georgia wants MAP for NATO on december summit).



    So Georgia was way too powerful for Osetians. They tried to do it, and do it quick on 08.07 - 08.08 night. Numerous civilians died due to shelling of Tshinvali.  Some russian peace keepers were killed too.

    Russia has performed air strikes against advancing georgain armour, and rallied its troops. However it took 16 hours to march the distance, this doesn't fit well with 'they were stationed near borders for weeks'. When russians arrived it was almost too late.



      

  16. well you need to know the whole history which you don't know , seeing as you aske that  (for the 3245678th time these two days ) . i'll just tell you about this very conflict, but if you still aren't convinced, go to the library and if you still will think that georgia would ever start a war with russia, you're a real prat, sorry. (georgia has never, in it's entire history, started a single war!!! )

    now, georgians just entered tskhinvali to protect the georgians living there. tskhinvali is said to be russian but there still are georgians living there. they were shooted for whole 4 days and then the georgians entered the region. and that was all the russians wanted to enter georgia passing through roki , and saying they were trying to protect their people they started bombing the capital of the country and other cities. seeing as you ask that question i don't think you have a full view of the situation. i have cos i'm georgian, and the one who lost friends who were trying to save ppl in the willages and cities which russians entered or bombed...just don't read russian web sites so you get the right information, that's the only country saying awful lies...  

  17. actually the intensity of genocide in ossetia is nothing comparing to the genocide happened in the middle east where the U.S. joined when the death toll reached to tens of thousands. in the case of georgia and russia, genocide is enough reason to wage war to another nation. while the U.S. movement is limited, and going to war will just add to the nations dept, waging war to russia is suicide and the russian's took that advantage to invade georgia which they can do easily. invading georgia will give russia additional oil. a genocide of 2000 people is pretty small reason for russia to wage war to georgia, surely there's a higher reason for the war since russia right now is invading georgia's capital. speaking of russia, they are one of the most powerful military country aside from U.S.

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