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How do we know that dinasours are around 365 million years old?

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When Carbon 14 and other tests have been proven inaccurate?

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  1. From the age of the rock layers they are found in. Ageing rock is not inaccurate.


  2. C14 dating isn't used to date anything over 50k years old.  There are various other types of radiometric dating methods used to determine the dates of fossils.  

    When you have two, three, or four of those methods all converging on a single age, then the likelihood of that age being incorrect is astronomically small.

    Creationists don't know this because creationists don't really care about science.  They only care about staving away cognitive dissonance.

  3. Firstly, dinos aren't 365 million years old, but between 200 and 65 million years old.

    Secondly, Carbon-14 is not used to date anything more than about 60,000 years ago. Other radiometric tests - such as Potassium-Argon - are used for dates in the dino range.

    Thirdly, it is not true that any of these tests have been proven inaccurate. They are used daily by scientists all across the world. If you believe otherwise, please post a cite from a reputable scientific source showing how and why they are inaccurate.

  4. We don't, because dinosaurs only started appearing about 205 million years ago. Carbon 14 tests haven't been proven inaccurate, and anyone who uses that in reference to dinosaurs obviously doesn't have a clue, since the tests are only good for thousands of years, not hundreds of millions.

    You might not want to get your science from fundamentalist crackpots who don't hesitate to lie to further their purposes.

  5. We do not know that they are that old.

    I do not think they are anything like that old.

    Those that think the dinosaurs died out millions of years ago are perhaps unaware of the large amount of evidence indicating that they lived recently alongside man.

    There are many written accounts and depictions of dinosaurs.

    http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/ancie...

    Remember that the word dinosaur was invented in 1841. Before that people used names like dragon.

    People from all over the world have accounts of dinosaurs: the Chinese who have incorporated it into their lunar calendar, The Welsh who have the dragon in their flag; The account of the Saxon Beowolf; The native american thunderbird; and other stories from many other nations. The Romans even made mosaics of them.

    Furthermore, dinosaur fossils have even been found containing blood cells - hardly 65 million years old.

    http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/...

    But check the evidence for yourself - don't by brainwashed by dogmatic evolutionists who don't want us to think for ourselves :)

    http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/...

  6. We don't any longer

    Our history as we know it is now all wrong

    If carbon dating was based on the atmosphere already being at saturation point then yes the dating is all wrong. In effect it means that instead of dinosaurs being alive between 200 million and 65 million years BC they would in fact be much much closer to us instead. This throws up new questions as to the reasons then why the fossils are found at such deep levels on the planet and therefore what is the reason behind this. It may well re-open the expanding earth theory once again.

    Perhaps we should also consider that in this new dating the whole idea of man evolving from Neanderthal or Cromagnom man is thrown into disrepute as it would put Neanderthals living at the same time as us, literally 6000 years ago

    Personally I think most of what we call history is not to be believed. I think there is a version of history that has been fed to us to hide a reality that doesn't fit with certain philosophies

    Too many startling archealogical discoveries have been covered up or "lost" over the years. Things like the the giant sketetal remains of north america, some with 2 rows of teeth, the radioactive 7000 year old city ruins in Pakistan, the modern technologies found in ancient ruins like aircraft or radios, the eternal lights found that have burned for 2000 years found in opened tombs, etc, there are thousands of things that museums have "mislaid" like the sarcophegus discovered on a mid Atlantic island a hundred or so years ago that the British Museum has "lost"

    We could go further and ask why certain parts of the globe have been deliberately blurred out on google earth like the entire south pole area and adjacent sections, or google moon if you really want to take it further

    I think the whole of our history needs to be re-written

  7. <<How do we know that dinasours are around 365 million years old?>>

    We know they weren't.  No remains have been found that predate about 230 million years.

    <<When Carbon 14 and other tests have been proven inaccurate?>>

    Carbon-14 dating has generally been demonstrated to be accurate by comparisons against other methods of dating and, where available, the written historical record.  Your assertion of "proven inaccurate" is a misrepresentation of the facts.  Carbon-14 dating also has nothing to do with dating strata yielding dinosaur fossils, none of which have been found to be as old as your thoroughly incorrect figure.

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    <<Ages of Rock is defined by carbon 14 which is inaccurate>>

    That's wrong as well.  Rocks aren't dated by carbon-14.  Before making assertions about subjects, it would be a good idea to find out something about them.

  8. Argon testing, and a plethora of other techniques including Xtal spectrographs. C14 is not inaccurate, as creationists and other clods try and insist, but it is not really the best test for fossils. fortunately, as I say, there are many other accurate techniques available.

  9. 1.  Fossils.

    2.  Relative and absolute dating of rocks (rocks are not dated using radiocarbon, which is only good for stuff with organic carbon in it and for things less than 50,000 years old).

    3.  The methods are not inaccurate.

    4.  Dinosaurs didn't live 365 million years ago...more like between 65 and 250 million years ago.

  10. A very interesting question.

    It is the stratigraphic section along with fossil records and radiometric ages of the rocks overlying and underlying the rocks containing dinosaurian fossils that gives us the age of dinosaurs.

    The tree of life as deduced from fossil records  gives us the main  events of evolution. So we know that dinosaurs existed some 365 million years ago.

    thnks

  11. Carbon 14 only goes back about 30,000 years. Maybe a bit more, but with larger error bars.

    I don't know who told you that carbon 14, over its proper range, is inaccurate.  On the contrary, it has been very precisely calibrated by matching against tree rings, as well as dated documents.

    The dinosaurs appeared around 230 million years ago, and became extinct (on present thinking, as a result of a small asteroid hitting the earth) 65 million years ago.

    These dates are established using such dating methods as uranium-lead and potassium-argon, which are accurate over this kind of timescale.

    Anyone who tells you that carbon 14 dating is intrinsically inaccurate, or that it is used to date the dinosaurs, is ignorant or lying.

    I agree with you that matters of scientific fact should not be coupled to matters of religious belief, although those who have religious beliefs should recognise an obligation to use their God-given brains and understand the results of modern science.

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