How do you follow rotation in volleyball to make sure there arent any overlaps?(Volleyball officials only)?

Question

I just started officiating volleyball, and i never played. This is the thing i am struggling with most, rotation. When ever I ask other officials they say it doesnt matter or cant really answer the question. I try to memorize the numbers, but as soon as they start subing i lose it. All tips would help. If you know anything please elaborate. Or if there are sites or books that could help me please let me know.

Answer 1

there are six players in the court and when its time to rotate, they rotate anticlockwise (player at position1 move to 6, 6 move to 5, and the rotation goes on) good luck anyway

Answer 2

Thanks Dan_Ye for the kind words.

I used to memorize all the players.  And like you said, they sub and now they use the Libero.  Now, I just memorize the setter and the player opposite the setter.  You can usually figure out who the middles are and hope they are opposite.  That leaves 2 other players to be opposite each other.  

However like I said, try to memorize the position of the setter and check the person opposite.  If you can remember that the setter is say middle back for the team on your left and the player is opposite them would be middle front.  And everything else should work out.  Then check out the other side to see that the setter is say serving.  That would make their opposite in left front.  This way, you know that you have a possible back row setter situation on each side.  

I had one very easy team to remember.  In serving order, their lineup was 1,2,3,4,7,6 and their coach could not figure out how I memorized her lineup so fast.  She had never even noticed.  

As for the officials that said it does not matter, you will find that they do not have a very high rating and will never have a very high rating.  (It always mattered to me and now I teach the refereeing clinics.)  Do not ask those officials for any more advice.  

I will say this about the overlap calls.  Do not go out of your way to call them.  If you have to move away from the centerline to see the 2 inch overlap, you will be out of position if they suddenly correct their feet.  If it is a tiny overlap, do not call it.  And if they are legal but only by inches (or illegal by an inch or two), I will usually warn the coach.  If you are the R2, wander quickly down to the coach and tell them about the near overlap.  And make that a quick comment.  Something like "Coach, your setter is leaving early and it is close."  That comment is usually enough to get their attention.  Not always.  I warned a coach that her setter was about to overlap.  She yelled at her setter and everything was fine.  The next time they hit that same rotation, the setter was out of position by about 1 foot.  The coach yelled at her.  And she moved.  The wrong way.  She was now completely out of position by several feet.  Another whistle and they were mad at me.  It was my fault that their setter could not figure out what was going on.

If you have any questions about what I have said here or any other officiating questions, please feel free to email me.

Answer 3

well the best thing is to know where the setter is and should be on the court. most of the overlapping will be done by the setter so know who is infront, behind, and opposite of the setter and you should be fine. also as a setter, make sure that when you call a rotation call you are absolutely sure. One time in a tourney (champ game) a ref called overlap because we changed the lineup so i set from middle front and she didnt catch it so just make sure you are positive.

Answer 4

Here is a link to the track sheet.

http://pavo.org/pdf/Lineup_Sheet.pdf

You can get more from the following site:

http://pavo.org/score.html

Honestly I stole the link from Gordon's post (gordonmorrison), so that if he comes to answer your question make sure you grant him the best answer :) I still owe him a vote for doubling my years with volleyball, lol.

[edit]

Ah, forgot, he mentioned there is a powerpoint training half way down the link listed below, for scorers to keep track of libero, and substitutions as well. Hope it helps.

http://pavo.org/currseason.html