How do you list royalty in a family tree?

Question

I'm working on a very extended family tree which includes non blood relatives and there are several members of royalty back several centuries. How would you list them in the family tree? The one I'm using for a source has for example Henry VIII listed as England, Henry VIII King of and therefore uses England as his last name

I believe its Tudor at the time, but trying to figure out all these correct surnames could turn into a real pain?

any suggestions or ideas

Thanks

Answer 1

Henry Tudor, of "The House of Tudor".

Henry VII , King of England.

Never, Henry England !

The origin of the Tudor name is much older than that of the Welch :"tewdr". Recorded in more than seventy spelling forms ranging from the French Theodore, the Welsh and Romanian Tudor, the Italian Teodori, and the Portugese Teodoro, this ancient European surname with some royal antecedents, is of Greek origins. It derives from Theodoros, a compound containing the elements "theos", meaning god, plus "doron", a gift, hence; "God's gift". Given such a religious connection, it is hardly surprising that according to the Church Calendar, the name has been borne by no less than twenty-eight saints, and in consequence was popular throughout Europe in the Middle Ages. This was particularly so during the period in the 12th and 13th centuries when the Christian Church underwent a religious revival.

The House of Tudor came to an end with the death of Queen Elizabeth I in 1603, she never married and had no heirs, so that lineage ended there. James Stuart, James VI of Scotland was crowned King, and the House of Stuart began, and lasted until 1714. when the present royal house began it's reign. (It was not one continuous lineage/family).

Surnames generally became hereditary in England during the 13th. and 14th.centuries (1400s - 1500s)  Henry VII was  known as Henry Tudor, it was by that time his family name, not a "clan" name, England did not have clans ! Henry was born in Pembroke Castle, Wales, on January 28th, 1457. he was the only child of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond, and 14 year old Lady Margaret Beaufort, their grandson, also named Henry Tudor, was born at Greenwich on 28 June 1491 he was the second son of Henry VII and he become Henry VIII. King of England. (1509 to 1547)

(Henry's tenuous claim to the throne of England was through his English mother , who claimed royal blood as a great-grand-daughter of John of Gaunt the third son of Edward III, and Gaunt's third wife Katherine Swynford, Duchess of Lancaster, not through his Welsh father)

Answer 2

If you Google "England+Royal Houses" you should get sites that enumerate the Stuarts, Plantagenets, York, Tudor and so on.

Answer 3

Ah, I love this kind of question as the Tudors of Merry Old England came from the Welsh (meaning "stangers"), the people they tried so hard to exterminate.  In Welch, Tudor was Tewdr (or variations thereof).  All of England's royalty since then have been descended for Owain Tewder.  But, see: http://nygaard.howards.net/files/3/3303....

But, first of all, "Tudor" was NOT  a surname, but refered to a clan or extended family.  The name comes before the advent of surnames in Merry Old England.  It was first a given name.

More to the point: If you wish to somehow list Henry VIII, you MUST show it as his FIRST name, without any surname.  (Which is one of many reasons why I refuse to use any of those genealogy family tree programs!)  He had NO SURNAME; thus none should be shown.  There were at that time lots of people from Lincoln; some at some point adopted Lincoln as a surname, but at that time, they would have been known as, e.g., "John of Lincoln".  Henry's name was NOT Henry Tudor, but Henry of the Tudors.

Also, unless there is some type of relatively close blood relationship, you should NOT show these people at all.  

Also, if you were to denote Henry VIII, you could conceivably thus also show Kings and Queens from Denmark (and other Scandinavian countries), Germany, France, the Netherlands, Spain, Portugal...Charlemagne the Great...the Caesars...Because they were all (more or less) related.