How do you spin record breaking cold temperatures into global warming?

Question

Wisconsin just had the coldest January in 114 years. We're also around the tenth most snow fall totals, with 4-6" coming tonight and another couple months worth of potential snow fall left.

Answer 1

Well lets see...........

1: Global warming warms average global temperatures.

2: Ice masses melt

3: Increase of fresh water to ocean systems

4: Dilution of the ocean salt content causes an imbalance in thermohaline circulation.

5: Warm oceans currents are slowed down

6: Certain areas relying on warm ocean currents experience colder weather.

It's pretty simple.

Answer 2

All it means is that you don't understand the science to begin with.  Excess energy in the biosphere causes more extreme weather events. It's not all about warming, it's all about energy.  That energy can be differential pressure (high winds), lightning, etc.  It doesn't have to be increased temperatures.

No one said that the increased energy would stop winter storms, on the contrary it makes them more powerful.

Try reading up on the science.  The Hadley Center for Atmospheric Research is a good place to start.

Answer 3

We had the same problem last winter - For eight weeks, we never had a high that reached anywhere near freezing. Broke every record in the books. Record snow falls too. We were sure looking for some of that Global Warming.

This winter has just been abnormally cold - not record shattering.

How do you spin that into Global Warming? You pay your PR agent to call the people who ask these sorts of questions hicks, spazos and idiots or, even worse, conservatives!  Now there's a NASTY word.

Answer 4

Have you seen the movie Day after tommorow? By the way we just spent the day in San Diego 25 degrees below average. Record cold for this day!

Danni

Answer 5

By asking the question - do you know the difference between weather and climate?  Local and global?  Wisconsin and the planet Earth?

Have you ever looked at the average global temperature data?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs...

If you answer 'yes' to these questions, then no spin is necessary, because you understand the basic science behind global warming.

Answer 6

All you have to say is that global warming causes record cold and snows.  

Then if anyone questions you, you quote Newt Gingrich and Pat Robertson.  

Then you say "the cold is weather, the climate is still warming.  Don't you know the difference between warming and climate?"

And if they still don't believe you, you call them names and try to discredit them as not being as smart as you are.

This actually happened.  India is having a conference on global warming in the middle of record cold.  Of course global warming is being blamed.

"The recent cold wave sweeping across Mumbai and other parts of India could be attributed to global warming, experts said on Tuesday here at an environmental conference. "

"Prabhu said the cold wave that swept Maharashtra and other parts of India recently could be attributed to the phenomenon of global warming."

Answer 7

You need to look at the whole year, not just the coldest part of the year. Oh, and it is "global warming" not "Wisconsin warming". Here in NC we have been having a pretty mild winter.

Answer 8

Well, it's a bit more comlex than that, but unfortunately the Politicians are wrong, as well and misinforming the public

... In other words...

d**n good question!!

GeoPhysicists claim that the average Earth temperature for the 19th C. was warmer than the 20 C. by 6 degrees.

I agree that pollution contributes to problems with the Environment, but I think there are much deeper things we have yet to learn - such as Standard Cyclical Earth Functionality -- Maybe we're headed for Our "Jungle" period, then that may be followed by another Ice Age.

We do NOT know enough right now -- and no matter what we do about Pollution - IT MAY NOT MATTER.

The only thing Hotter than normal, on this planet is Propaganda & Politics.

Get it, Got it, Good!!

Pertinent Question, Kingler :-) !!  I just wish others would Get it.

:

Answer 9

Go to this website and see for yourself. What you are asking is the same uninformed question, or a variation on it, that gets asked here about 20 times a day.  Go to the link and learn for yourself.  

http://environment.newscientist.com/chan...

charts of 20th century world temp changes

  http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1...

Will show you that even in the warm periods, some places are cold or even get cooler.

It's called global warming, which is only said to be 0.6 C degree increase in the last century.  None of the climate scientists predicted that it would be a warm winter where you happen to live.

Answer 10

You have a good point,  why would temperatures be so far below average during a time when "every year has been hotter than the last, and the top 15 hottest years have been since 1998!!!"  (haha)

You cant say this is  "just weather".  Temperatures have been below average for much of north america this year.  Now you cant base much off of a couple months of downtrend, but hey, you cant base much off of 120 years of temperature measurements either now can ya?

Now... if a volcano erupts any time soon, people will blame it on global warming.  People are also dumb enough to blame the 2004 tsunami on global warming some how too, they just dont really know.

Answer 11

Global average is what we are talking about, not local events. but local events are effected by GW. Cooling and warming always happen. but what is happen in the world deserts?

We have the technology to move past the carbon debate. We do not have time to go through the government red tape. With oil on the decline, we have to make massive changes, swiftly. But we have to take the time to get it right. We can not do this twice, or three times - like in the past; we have to put our money in the best return on investments and where we get multiple benefits. We have had most of this technology for 20 years but have not implemented it. We know what is cost effective; we know where we need better technology. Without governments mandating renewable resources that do not harm the environment, we are doomed. The fossil fuel depression with global warming will be the worst economic downturn in world history. But this is not doom and gloom; we have the ability to fix our mess and enough time. Solar Concentrating Electric Power Plants, wind, wave, small hydro-electric, geothermal, and nuclear energy are what we need. We must have a pollution surcharge where we pay the real price (health effects, global warming and cleanup) for oil, natural gas, coal, cigarettes, cooling towers, cars, trains and airplanes. Raising the price of fossil fuel today gives us more time to solve these problems and helps pay for the 20 Trillion Dollars worth of renewable energy over the next 10 years. Remember knowledge is power and this information is very powerful. Humans have 50 trillion dollars worth of stuff that runs on cheep oil, natural gas, or coal.

I attended the Focus the Nation at Sierra College on 1-31-08. The event was the 2% Solution, a 2% reduction over 40 years to solve global warming. Oil is a nonrenewable resource and we are running out-but not soon – anyone now want to pay $30 per gallon for gas. The problem is the oil will be gone in less than 30 years at present rates of consumption without projected increases and shortages (gone at least to run cars, heat homes, power electric plants or air travel). The 2% Solution is ok for the USA for a 10 year plan to cut 20%, but I would prefer a 5% Solution over the next 10 years for a 50% reduction. At the same time, we have to be building renewable energy so at the end of 10 years we can cut an additional 20%. With the peak of oil in the 1970’s, peak NG in the 1990’s, having mined cheep coal, the peak of ocean fishing in the 1980’s, and the peak of uranium in the 1990’s, humans must stop procrastinating and make real changes to keep earth sustainable including in the energy debate, finance and regulation. Over the next 90 years carbon dioxide is projected to skyrocket as human’s burn more fossil fuels, but we have to come up with what will take its place and cleanup our mess. One of the big problems we have is at some time Yellowstone will blow its top again, as the magma move closer to the surface, creating a nuk winter. After that we will not have to worry about the destruction of the ozone layer, global warming or pollution.

Many of mankind’s advancements cause earth surface to warm, destroy the ozone layer, kill off endanger species, heat cities, and in some way cause more dramatic destruction.  Blacktop and buildings (roads, roofs and parking lots-heat cities), deforestation (air pollution, soil erosion), duststorms (increase hurricanes and cyclones, cause lung diseases), fires (cause pollution, mud slides, and deforestation), refrigerants (like CFC's) and solvents (including benzene destroy the ozone layer raising skin cancer rates) and plastics; cars, airplanes, ships and most electricity production (causes pollution including raised CO2 levels and increased lung and other diseases); these human problems we must fix to keep life on earth sustainable! Humans have destroyed half of the wetlands, cut down nearly half of the rain forest, and advance on the earths grasslands while advancing desertification which increases duststorms.

The result is:  change is on the way, we just do not know what changes (where and when). Look beyond the hype, beyond the weather, beyond a quarterly report and beyond today. President Bush has made a choice of energy (ethanol) over food and feeding the starving people around the world; this is a choice China has rejected. The fact is Bush wants to buy food from out side the USA to send to starving people since our grain is not available. Now what USA Presidential candidate is giving you the facts so you can make an educated decision of which one to vote for?

But with that we must understand we have never seen what is now happening before. CO2 has never lead to temperature change, but temperature change has led to increases in CO2. The models have to be made as we go along with current evidence! But again adding a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere enlarges the earths sun collection causing warming; increase water in the atmosphere and it forms clouds cooling earth but sometimes causing flooding. Even natural events are warming earth and causing destruction. The sun has an increased magnetic field causing increases in earthquakes (more destruction), volcanoes (wow, great destruction), and sun spots. Lighting produces ozone near the surface (raising air pollution levels). The USA Mayor's have taken a stand and I believe are on the right track, we can have control and can have economic growth. The sun is available to produce energy, bring light to buildings and makes most of human’s fresh water. Composting is the answer to desertification. New dams are the answer to fresh water storage, energy and cooling earth by evaporation, we need many small ones all over (California needs 100 by 2012 and we are far behind).

That is why I founded CoolingEarth.org, a geoengineering web sight where you can learn more about earth, the atmosphere, and how to sustain life on earth’s surface. Watch for changes in the sight coming soon.

Answer 12

You don't spin it either way. Spin doesn't belong in science. I see you're trying to lure those pesky "Libs" into your oh so clever trap, or you're just preaching to the converted. So, instead of your BS question, why don't you try asking something intelligent.

Answer 13

If you are an alarmists you try your best to spin it, but when you look at the data and find that the Earths temperature plunged 0.5 Degrees C over the last thirty days, you remain silent.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs...

.

.

Answer 14

A person would have to be pretty gullible to believe that a one degree F of warming that took place over the last 100+ years would suddenly ban cold weather, including records (which haven't been tracked for long, so they're broken regularly).

Clearly global warming has nothing to do with normal daily or seasonal weather variations.  Weather is not climate.  Climate is not weather.  Global warming does not magically ban winter, or normal short term weather fluctuations.

Do you understand that snow falls when it's under 32 degrees outside?  Your climate can warm but as lonng as it doesn't warm above 32 degrees, it's still snowing.

Take a science class or two.

Answer 15

You wait until there's a weather change and then you try to make a climate model that shows that this change is due to global warming and then throw in that humans cause global warming.

It's that easy.  It's called the 7 degrees to global warming game.  We play that game sometimes when we get really drunk and want a good laugh.

Recently we proved that global warming caused Britney Spears to lose her pants.

Answer 16

We really don't know whether or not the Earth is averaging warmer temperatures!  The temperature data used to track past, present and future trends has been determined to be flawed....... has been for years..... and as the monitoring stations continue to deteriorate and be encroached on by man...... the data is more and more unreliable!  Fortunately....for the AGW cult.....the data is producing warmer than actual temps.  You can bet that they will continue to ignore the fact of bad data as long as it (falsely) supports their 'cause'.  NOAA has yet to correct the problem.

If the data is bad.....there can be no 'science'.

Edit:  The 'thumbs-down' supports my contention that the ones who are REALLY in denial are those who have fallen blindly into the Cult of the AGW!!!  They lack the integrity to admit the error of their ways.

Answer 17

Yea Preach, Preach-There are just as many scientists who disagree with the notion of Global Warming as there are who agree