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How does it make any sense?

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why do atheists think that the universe just randomly came together and deny the existence of any god at all? that's like saying its possible for a car to put itself together. is that possible? i could tell you right now that is impossible. cars get put together by people not by themselves. for someone to think there is no Chance of there being a god at all is just pig headed. why is this world so perfectly placed where it is? why are we on earth? why not another planet? why are we just far enough away form the sun to be able to live and not die from the heat? where did all the animals come from? why? because of a big bang? I'm sorry but that is a pathetic excuse for an explanation... its a load of ****. so my question to you is why and how can they think that?

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  1. I am afraid your question is like waving a red flag at a bull. I have nothing against people who do not believe in God. You will never convince them while they are alive. They will find out at the very moment of death when their souls go to meet God to be judged.


  2. Evolution

  3. Okay, for a start, most of the universe is governed by gravity.  Matter attracts matter and this is what keeps things in order, keeps celestial bodies orbiting bigger celestial bodies, causes stars to start burning, causes planets to be round and so on.

    Planets do not have intricate mechanical parts.  You cannot even compare life to a car simply because cars do not reproduce and do not need to be capable of surviving against other cars.  

    If you cannot understand how people can simply exclude your god then maybe you should look at it from their point of view rather than getting on your high horse and telling them how its obvious that your fantasy world makes more sense to you.  Okay?

  4. All you need to know on the subject is contained in text books that are freely available at most public libraries, certainly here in the developed world, but I am sure you could find them where you live too.

    Try these Wiki links, yes I know what you might think of Wiki, but it is not a bad place to start.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang this one has some pictures and diagrams to help you and is easy for most 10 year olds to understand.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ev...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_a... and this one should help you get the basics of evolution and to understand certain scientific words and phrases, like the meaning of the word `theory`.

    Good luck, learning can be so much fun !


  5. Look , I believed in God but I was wrong. After I read about Buddhism , I stopped and then only I was saved & benefited immensely.

    Tell me from your experience , are you a robot controlled by others or a person with free will , free to make decisions?

    However , the religion is a creation of fundamentalists who want to control masses (for their benefit).

    Since Buddha was an atheist , many people asked him the same questions you do. However he chose to keep silent. He did it so because his answer would become yet another fundamentalist ideology. Rather he said - " Dont ask how the universe began , rather search for the cause & effect. What causes what? Live in reality of this  moment . See how the thoughts arising in your mind ."

    The question of origin of creation is unanswerable because there is no one to answer that- not even God. Else where is he?

    Different people can only speculate about the answers to your questions . Better bury them in the graveyard of the church of  uncertainty.  

  6. If you study evolution with an open mind, you will see that it's quite possible.

    In any case, just because you can't figure it out doesn't mean that others cannot or should not.

    Your position that a God magically put everything here makes no sense either, if you think about it.

  7. Sorry, you fail, try again later.

    We're on this planet because this is the planet we are on. Our position relative to the sun is not the only thing that determines the earth's survivability.

    I won't even bother to take on the rest of this, you're an idiot and I don't have the patience to write so much.

  8. Oh my, what a coincidence! Life evolved on a planet that can support life, and didn't evolve on planets that crashed into their suns or flew away into space. Must be something supernatural involved...

  9. Lot of different questions here.. I'll do my best to answer them in a meaningful way.  I trust you'll do your best to understand what I'm saying so that you can actually understand.

    "why do atheists think that the universe just randomly came together and deny the existence of any god at all? "

    Well, you've grossly oversimplified it but we'll get into that.  There is absolutely no objective evidence at all for the existence of any god.   Gods aren't needed to explain anything, so why would we bother believing in them?

    "that's like saying its possible for a car to put itself together. is that possible? i could tell you right now that is impossible. cars get put together by people not by themselves."

    The two are not at all alike, at least not in the way you are thinking.  

    Cars are technological machines designed by humans.  We know cars have been designed because we designed them.  There is absolutely no evidence at all to suggest that we were designed.  You might think that "creation needs a creator," but that is only a semantic trick you're playing on yourself.  This is not "creation."  You only call it that because you believe in a creator.  Actually turn that statement around and see if it still makes sense to you... "creators need a creation."  See?  It works that way too.  This is called circular logic.  

    So, while we know cars are designed, ideas of transportation were not.  The idea has evolved.  Cars weren't invented in a vacuum and there was a very good reason why Homo Erectus didn't invent cars 200,000 years ago.  In order to invent the automobile, first we had to harness fire, develop chemistry, invent spark plugs, the wheel, gears, metal working, and so on and so on.  

    We also had to have the initiative and incentive to develop a better mode of transportation.  Most attempts at early flying machines were mimicking the flight of birds.  So where do you think we got the idea from?  Back to your car example, perhaps one of the first things we had was a wheelbarrow.. horseback riding and pack mules... then horse drawn carriages.. then horseless carriages.  It's not at all hard to see the evolution in the idea as they all follow the basic premise: 1) using physics provide a stable means to allow for the movement of a particular weight, and 2) some force to power the contraption, whether human, horse, or electric motor.  Please note, the individual contraptions were designed, but the overall idea behind transportation was not.  Also note that at each stage, we didn't have to reinvent the wheel all over again.  Da Vinci used wheels in his tank design, Henry Ford used wheels in his designs, and modern cars use wheels too.

    It also needs to be said that the wheel itself is not always the best thing to use.  Try using a pack of dogs to drag a wagon in the arctic and you'll see that the wheel isn't always the best choice.  Sleds work much better.  What works best depends largely on the environment.  

    It would be unfathomable for someone 200,000 years ago to design a fully working automobile from scratch.  The odds of it happening like that would be astronomical.  However, we did eventually invent a fully working automobile.  Whoever it was that first stuck some wheels on a basket wasn't dreaming of a modern BMW, they just wanted an easier way to carry stuff around.  After many thousands of years of subtle improvements to old ideas, we eventually have BMWs.  Though the BMW looks nothing at all like a wheelbarrow, a long time ago, someone had to invent a wheelbarrow first.  A BMW does, however, look a lot like Ford's Model T, a far more recent "ancestor" of the BMW.  

    Now we have a better analogy.  

    The gist of natural selection and evolution is this:

    1. What works, and is stable, exists.

    2. Subtle changes (mutations) over time can make something work better (and be more stable) or not work as well (be less stable)

    3. That which is more stable (and works better) is more likely to survive than that which is less stable.

    4. Organic compounds, proteins, amino acids, and self-replicating entities only had to happen once.  Just like we didn't have to reinvent the wheel with every improvement to transportation.  

    5. Repeat over billions of years

    These same general rules can be used for cosmological evolution as well as biological.  Keep in mind, though, I'm simplifying things greatly to help you understand.  If you want more detailed information, you'll have to ask a more specific question.

    "for someone to think there is no Chance of there being a god at all is just pig headed"

    I don't know too many atheists who say there is "no chance" of there being a god.  We may say the odds are astronomical -- and they are...even more so than the odds of Homo Erectus inventing a BMW from scratch.   Atheists simply don't believe in gods.  That's it.  There's no need to believe in gods.  

    "why is this world so perfectly placed where it is?"

    Well, I wouldn't say it is "perfectly" placed.  But, cosmologically speaking, the nebula that ended up becoming the sun and planets of our solar system followed the laws of physics to find forms that were stable.  It just so happened that the planets as they are were a stable form for that matter.

    "why are we on earth? why not another planet?"

    Because out of billions of stars and billions of billions of planets, some of them were bound to have environmental conditions suitable for life to develop.  Even if the odds of an individual ticket winning the lottery are huge, chances are that someone will win the lottery.  

    "why are we just far enough away form the sun to be able to live and not die from the heat?"

    See the above question.  If the conditions on this planet were not suitable for life, we wouldn't be around to be asking it.  We're only asking it BECAUSE this planet happened to be suitable for life.  For all the billions of planets not suitable for life, someone had to win the lottery.

    "where did all the animals come from? "

    The same way transportation vehicles are different.  Some have propellers, some sleds, some wings, some wheels, some treads, some legs.  Organisms evolved into stable forms that worked and were successful at living within a particular environment.  Fish have gills, humans have lungs, and planets have photosynthesis.  There is no one right way to live.

    "why? because of a big bang?"

    Well biological evolution is a long ways away from cosmological evolution.  But the same general principles do apply, though in an oversimplified form.  

    By the way, the "Big Bang" you speak of is one of a few cosmological *models* of the origins of the universe.  As a model, it is rapidly falling out of favour as other models are being developed that better explain the evidence based on our improved knowledge of the Universe and, in particular, Quantum Mechanics.  

    That's the beauty of science you see?  Science is a process.  There is no such thing as "Big Bangism" or "Evolutionism."   Rational people follow the evidence and use logic to form their ideas on these issues.  When new evidence comes to light that contradicts our ideas, new ideas have to be formed.  

    "I'm sorry but that is a pathetic excuse for an explanation... its a load of ****. so my question to you is why and how can they think that?"

    Yet another beautiful thing about science... it's something anyone can do!  

    If you have reason to think evolutionary theory in biology is wrong, go to University and become a biologist.  

    If you have reason to think our cosmological models are wrong, become an astrophysicist.

    Prove that your theory better explains the evidence.  If you can do that, we'll all applaud you and there'd likely be a Nobel Prize in it for you.  If you aren't willing (or more likely, unable) to do that, then leave the science to scientists.

  10. So you're saying humans are God?

    Because they can create a car?

  11. First off your pigheaded for being so narrow headed, we don't think it just all magically came together, maybe you should get your facts straight before you go around calling us pigheaded?

  12. Are you familiar with "the pale blue dot"?  Once you see earth from 4 billion miles away it ceases to hold the fascination that it once did.  From the other side of the universe we're a dot that is less than a pixel on the computer screen you're staring at.  Pretty hard to believe after seeing the earth that way that there's anything particularly special about us.  Because there really isn't.

    Google it.


  13. So goddidit is a perfectly logical explanation for you.

    However many of us don't follow mythology and we will stick with the scientific version of events.

  14. You won't get any real answers here because they simple don't know how they came here!

  15. Our truth is based on fact, your truth is based on faith. Ours is real, yours is not.

  16. Life evolved to fit the Earth.  The Earth was not formed to accommodate life.  

    Where did your god come from?  Did it have a beginning?  Or do you simply accept that it 'was always there'?

    Seems pretty crazy to me.

    Atheist.

  17. You're only off by a mile.

  18. Your limited intelligence is prohibiting you and perhaps always will from seeing the reality for what it truly is. Hey, at least you are not alone.

  19. you must realize where we non believers come from, we were all religious once. but then we started asking questions like "if god created everything, wouldnt he look at everything as his children and not animals?" and since there are over 1000s of religions on this planet alone, do you really think that YOUR belief is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. its a mathmatical improbability. and why would humans get the special treatment, why not cockraches? or butterflys. how come we can only burn or get salvation. but once you study history.

    you'll realize religion is only used to keep ignorant people in line with fear of eternal damnation.

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