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How effective is JuJutsu (Realistically)?

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I am 15 years old, 5'10'' and I only way 130 pounds somehow but am pretty muscular for my age (at least somewhere above average, I'd say). My uncle takes JuJutsu (Yes the traditional Japanese art is called JuJutsu, no Jiu Jitsu or JuJitsu) and has been for a few years now, and I was thinking about joining up with him. I am pretty good when it comes to fights (I've never lost one, but I haven't gotten into many, but I ALWAYS win the play ones with my friends) but I never really throw punches because I don't want to hurt the other guy too badly, and especially not kill him! So I was just wondering, realistically, how helpful JuJutsu really can be in a fight. Say, for example, I got into a fight after school. Typical fights consist of lots of grabbing attempts and punching. Do you think if I got somewhat good at JuJutsu I'd be able to use the locks easily in a real fight and how helpful do you think they would be? I know the plus side of JuJutsu is once they are in a lock, they are pretty much screwed. But can anyone expand on this? Negatives? Positives? Convince me to take JuJutsu, or convince me not to please :)

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  1. well if ur worried about hurting people then watch out becasue japanese jujutsu was created by the samurai as a means to kill enemie samurai if they lost there sword, they used grappling techniques because as u no samurai are fully clad in armor so punches and kicks werent the best idea, because of this they made very nasty an brutal chokes, holds and joint manipulation techniques, all of which are meant to kill or maem the other guy......now that bein said it and any other martial art u take will be effective so long as u train hard, itll be very good for u because of ur size an stature and as long as u stay away from spin locks or chokes ull be fine and be able to make the guy look like an *** without really hurtin him, also dont let ppl tell u its the same as bjj because bjj was actually derived from judo, which is japanese jujutsu with more of an ephansis on throws not holds, all three are great jus dont want ya confused, id recomend it because iv seen it and its very appliable, reasonable and isnt gonna waste ur time with flashy moves.  


  2. Bujinkan NON-Ninja - you are a real moron. People who give answers are people who have knowledge of a particular or even many subjects. You have convinced many here that you know nothing about martial arts.

    Jujutsu is the proper spelling.

    It is an excellent art. I know many JJ practitioners and have found it to be an art I would study.

    BJJ is more related to Judo and lacks many of the techniques found in JJ.


  3. yes japanese jujitsu is worth doing if you want to be able to defend yourself on the street.if you want to fight in the ring where theres rules,a ref and a medic do brazillian jujitsu.

    TAKE THE JJJ IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO>at the end of the day it is a good style and noone elses opinion matters except yours besides which 99% of ppl who answer on here wouldn't know sh.t from clay so why would you want there opinion anyway?  

  4. jujitsu is very effective.. Jiu Jitsu techniques include kicking, punching, knees, throws, joint locks, chokes, as well as the use of weaponry. It became the preferred combat system of the samurai warrior with the passing of Tokugawa around the year 1800, after which the social status of the Samurai was reduced to common citizen, and was no longer able to carry a sword in public. The Samurai were thus forces to learn empty handed combat in order to protect themselves.

  5. Jiu-jitsu is extremely effective.  It is designed for the smaller oppenent to defeat the larger oppenent.

    Here is part of an article I wrote on Jiu-Jitsu:

    The premise of BJJ is that most of the advantage of a larger, stronger opponent comes from superior reach and more powerful strikes, both of which are somewhat negated when grappling on the ground. The BJJ style includes effective use of the guard position to defend oneself from the bottom position, and passing the guard to dominate from top position with side control, mount, and back mount positions. This system of maneuvering and manipulation can be likened to a form of chess when performed by two experienced practitioners. A submission hold would be the equivalent of checkmate.

    BJJ permits all the techniques that judo allows to take the fight to the ground. Once on the ground the opponents can continue to fight, and winning is usually the result of one participant "tapping out". In sport competition, matches are timed and can also be won by outscoring your oppenent by gaining dominent positions, and completing certain manuevers.

    Popular techniques employed by practioners are the triangle choke, kimura, cross-choke, armbar, foot-locks, sweeps, and maintaining dominent positions. Fighting generally begins from the stand-up position and the fighters will work to take eachother down by employing a range of throws, sweeps, and other takedowns. Once on the ground, each oppenent will move to try and gain an advantageous position and apply techniques designed to force the oppenent into submission (tap out).

    Hope this helps.  

    Socalmark

  6. honestly it depends on how they train. if they train to fight or go against a resisting partner then yes but if all they do is just go threw the motion then you wont learn how to find other ways to apply the technique.

  7. im sure it will help a lot but there is the other jutjutsu called Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu which is ideal for modern real fights.

    the traditional jujutsu is suited more for the days of the samurai and **** like that.


  8. Since I began training Jiu Jitsu I haven't lost a street fight.  Its almost ridiculous how the opponents Ive faced have put themselves right into the position that I was looking for.  I say stick to your training and watch what people do in a real fight...Its actually very funny

  9. you have japanese jujutsu....and a whole list of other arts that came from it

    aikido

    judo (and thus sambo)

    brazilian jujutsu

    just to name the big 3, or 4 if you count sambo which came from judo primarily.

    understand that jujutsu is primarily a grappling art. throws and joint locks mainly. it has strikes and kicks yes...but they are not so much used to damage the opponent. they are used to distract them so you can get your joint locks, or throws. avoiding a fight is very much a part of jujutsu.

    what you need to understand is that it doesn't matter how it is spelled (yes koryu japanese bujutsu spells is jujutsu because thats how its supposed to be pronounced) ...the "ju" is the same between them all. they are all based on the same underlying principle which is called "ju" or "yeilding" ...ie dont use force against force. goJU ryu karate, JU jutsu, JUdo, brazilian JUjutsu..."ju" is the common theme. and each separate style is but an interpretation of that theme.

    listen carefully. the art will not make you good..or make you bad. you will make the art good, or make the art bad. jujutsu is great for me, but if you dont work hard and study hard...you won't be so good at it. but if you work hard, yes jujutsu is a great fighting art.  

  10. I've never trained or even seen Japanese Jujitsu, but if it's anything like Brazilian Jujitsu then it would be very effective in a real fight. Jujitsu used grappling techniques and ground techniques (as you already know) and most police departments teach their officers some Jujitsu (which is why you alway see the police take the suspect to the ground). I recommend you take it.

    Also, Judo and Brazilian Jujitsu did NOT come from Japanese Jujitsu. Brazilian Jujitsu came from Kodokan Judo and neither have anything to do with Japanese Jujitsu.

  11. First of all if you study a legitimate Japanese martial art you'll learn the value of not getting into scraps in the first place, before you're over 18 and you put on an armbar that lands you in prison. That's why they bill it as self-defense, you'll be in serious legal trouble if you apply an expert martial art to a fight you don't have to be in.  So if you feel like you will get in some serious scraps it's better not to have a martial art belt, it's a serious liability.

    Legally, you can not use any kind of deadly force in a fight unless you have exhausted every alternative. For a self-defense claim you must PROVE to a jury (the burden of proof is on you not the prosecutor) that you:

    1) were in immediate danger of losing your life;

    2) did everything in your power to escape

    3) that any reasonable person would have acted exactly the same.

    If you can't prove it, you'll have no excuse for any death or injury your fighting prowess causes. It's only self-defense if you can prove it, and you can stand your ground only in your own home.

    All that aside, the sporting forms are extremely effective, you only have to look at modern MMA to see just how many fights are won by submissions, wrestling and ground-and-pound.

    But keep in mind that in practice, it's a sport. As a real world tool in fighting, hand-to-hand combat methods have extremely limited applications. Neither JuJutsu nor any other hand-to-hand skill set will allow you to beat down a guy who pulls a knife on you in the street. (Don't ever try, just run, if it happens.) Fortunately if you learn the Asian methods they'll stress that it's not about the fighting, it's the way of life, the sport and the confidence you get from it.

    In real life, serious combat is done with weapons. If it's real-life combat you want, join the army. But don't look forward to any hand-to-hand combat, you'll be holding a rifle.

    <edit> listen to Jeremy not drew... legally you must do everything you can to avoid a fight or you're considered a willing combatant and will be charged the same as everyone else involved. The law gives some consideration for mitigating circumstances like "fighting words" or baiting, but it won't matter who picks the fight if you injure them or if you are a martial artist. And again the burden of proof is on you, if you cause any injury or death, to prove to the jury that you did everything in your power to avoid the fight.

    Also in many jurisdictions, being a martial artist is considered the legal equivalent of having a deadly weapon.

    Every real fight you're in puts you at risk of being charged with a class A felony, "assault with a dangerous/deadly weapon," depending on how the cops and the DA see things. A responsible teacher will train you in fight avoidance also.

  12. Our trained in many styles bunjin master has once again shown just how far his head is up his *** once again.

    The KODOKAN is an association and training hall for the teaching of KANO JUJUTSU  which KANO  called JUDO .KODOKAN itself is not a style of either JUDO or traditional JUJUTSU.

    KANO was a master in at least 2 styles of JUJUTSU and studied a few others before developing JUDO based on sport competition and rules with the idea of making it safer and suitable for OLYMPIC consideration.The KODOKAN was established to promote JUDO worldwide an OLYMPIC requirement.

    I would say study it by all means .If nothing else it is a solid base for anything else you might want to get into.

  13. Truly the best answer:  never get into a fight unless you absolutely have to, even if you are being attacked.  The only defense is to run away.  Even if you are the best martial artist in the world, someone can pull a knife, or worse, a gun.  You also run the risk of the opponent's buddies jumping in and beating you to a pulp.  There's also the chance of seriously injuring your opponent, criminal and civil charges filed against you, etc.  Never fight unless there is no escape.

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