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How fast are normal trains in england?

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  1. A more accurate question might be 'How slow are normal trains in England?'!

    When the trains run at all, the top speed is generally about 80mph, although there are some exceptions.


  2. On the East Coast Main Line, London to Leeds and Edinburgh, top speed is 125mph. Although the trains are built to go faster than that , the signalling etc., doesn't permit it. The same comments apply to the Pendolinos on the West Coast Main Line, London to Birmingham, Manchester/Liverpool and Glasgow. High Speed Diesels on the Great Western Main Line can reach 125mph, but this tends to slow as they get further from London. 125 is also top line speed on the Midland line to Derby Nottingham and Sheffield. 100 mph is more normal on routes into East Anglia. Elsewhere the top speed is around 80mph, although runs have been made on the third rail to Brighton where 100mph has been reached in places and the journey done in just over 30 minutes.


  3. I am a little puzzled by what you refer to as "normal trains", but am guessing you mean local or suburban trains as opposed to long distance express trains.

    Most multiple unit stock, generally used on local or semi-fast services, is capable of 100mph.  

    The actual speed they run at is governed not only by the maximum allowed speed on the train, but the linespeed, that is, the speed restrictions placed upon the track.  This is set by the infrastructure owner, Network Rail.

  4. The maximum line speed on most lines is 90mph, but this will be reduced in many circumstances.

    High speed lines can be as high as 140mph and on these there can be differential line speeds.

    In addition, there are restrictions on certain types of trains. For example the old Class 08 shunters had a speed limit of 30mph when working alone, 15mph when connected or shunting.

  5. There is no such thing as a Normal train in England, the Train operating Companies all have a variety of rolling stock (trains) which have different limitations and power specifications, added to that the nature of the Victorian system of permanant way (The track) and the gauging of the track bed, gradiants on curves, restrictions on viaduct and tunnels, then you are really looking at some heavy restrictions, but as a rule of thumb you could just about say that the following applies.

    In built up areas like large towns and cities where there are many junctions (like approaching the terminuses in London, Manchester, Birmingham) then around the 30mph mark.

    In built up areas with many stations close together (heavy commuter zones) then around 50mph

    In built up areas but larger gaps between stations (commuter belt) then around 75mph

    Most lines in open country or Main lines passing through towns then anything up to 90 - 100mph

    High speed lines like East / West Coast, West Country Lines to the South West anything up to 140mph

    High Speed 1 Channel Link I think is 160mph, not sure about that one.

    However most trains in the England will travel on average between 70 and 90 mph.  If you look out of any train or when you are passing alongside any track, you will see some White circles with a red border with a large number printed on, they are like those you see on the road, maximum speed markers, no train driver will ever exceed these speeds unless they want to lose their jobs, most trains are now fitted with black box recorders that can be accessed by the Train Driver Managers / Inspectors that can read where the train is, what buttons the drivers are pressing, speed, brake application, how close they are running to time, etc, etc. And just like driving a car, if you are caught speeding, you will be given points on a licence and suspended from driving a train until a manager is availiable to supervise them for a suitable length of time or they are deemed unfit to drive a train.

    Hope this all helps  

  6. East coast & West coast main lines is 125 MPH on other lines it's about 70 to 90mph. The line that come passed my house is ther Durham Coast Line (Hartlepool) and the HST  that comees passed goes about 90 on the line here but on the East Coast it 125

  7. Well down here in the south most of them go at around 100 - 125 mph max. But some long distance trains in the north go at up to 140 mph and high speed 1 allows trains to go up to 186 mph or 300 kmph.

    Frieght trains go slower, i think the maximum is 60 - 80 mph for them.

  8. If by normal you mean the 'Classic' lines (ie not the high speed line through Kent) then the maximium speed is 125mph. This is the maximum that is permitted with track side signalling

    The Pendolinos on the West Coast and the Mallards on the East Coast are both capable of 140 mph, but in both cases the powers that be didn't manage to get approval for the more advanced signalling needed.

    On the High Speed route from St Pancras to Folkstone, Eurostars reach 300km/h (186mph) and the new Javelin units will do 225km/h (140mph) - these use the French TVM (Transmission Vouitre Machine) in-cab signalling for compatiblilty with the French LGV Nord and Channel Tunnel which uses the same system)

    There is currently a Trial of the ETCS (European Train Control System) which is a more advanced radio based cab signalling system - it will go into service on the Cambrian route in Wales next year before a nation wide roll out starts in the next decade. This may see speeds rise to 155mph

  9. Not as fast as abnormal trains in England!

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  11. If a train arrives within 5 minutes (local) or 10 minutes (long distance) it is deemed to be on time!    

    Make sure you have LOTS of money to buy the tickets!


  12. hahahaha

    I cant help myself but

    "normal" and "trains" in the same sentence . . . . .

    too much.  

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