How is homosexuality natural when....

Question

there is almost always a masculine version and feminine version in their relationships?

This isn't an attack. I am truly wondering other people's opinions on

this.

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Answer 1

Homosexuality is natural, in that it occurs in nature.  It occurs in other species as well as humans.  It is not, however, natural for the majority of people, it couldn't be, otherwise the human race would have long since died out, and in fact would never have got started. The fact that some (perhaps most, I wouldn't know)homosexuals tend to conform to a masculine/femine mode of relating to each other doesn't negate the fact that they are drawn to people of their own gender rather than the opposite gender.

Answer 2

"Nature" is an abstraction, which therefore exists only in the human mind.  As homosexuality is essentially anti-procreative, it reduces the number of human minds which are able to conceptualize nature.  Thus it opposes nature.

Answer 3

It depends on what you mean by natural. In terms of the natural biological purpose of s*x, homosexuality is not natural. The purpose of s*x is to reproduce, and reproduction requires one of each gender (male and female). That is the whole reason why two genders exist at all. When someone is born with a sexual attraction to people of their same s*x, there is something wrong with their hormones or whatever part of their brain generates their s*x-drive. There is no biological reason why two people of the same s*x should ever be sexually attracted to each other.

But in a different meaning of "natural", I definitely think homosexuality is the natural way that homosexuals are born. People that think homosexuality is a choice are ridiculous (in my opinion), because no one chooses who they are attracted to. Straight people didn't choose to be attracted to the opposite s*x. So why would anyone think that g*y people chose to be attracted to their same s*x? Especially considering how g*y people are made fun of and looked down upon and assaulted and ridiculed. No one would choose that. And also, no one would choose to not be attracted to the opposite s*x if they naturally were. Do you really think a guy is going to be sitting around, looking at girls and being totally attracted to them, thinking "aw man, girls are so hot." and then decide, "ya know what? I'm gonna stop wanting to s***w all these hot chicks and instead I'm gonna get horny by seeing naked men. Ya, that sounds like a great idea." ?

Answer 4

Sweetheart, sexuality is sexuality. "Masculine" and "feminine" are labels attached by society in order to simplify, stereotype, and therefore dismiss.

Same as the difference between sexuality and gender. Sexuality is what's between your legs; gender is what's between your ears.

Just continue to love and accept your cousin. That's all that really matters in the end.

Answer 5

Homo sexuality isn't natural. If you are religious then you'll no God has forbidden it because it destroys the family unit that should have been.

If you are not religious then nature has demmed it necassary that for most species to carry on and survive then their must be two sexes and intercourse of some sort between them.

If all sharks became homosexuall there would soon be no more sharks. Same with most species including humans.

Answer 6

The butch femme thing is a bit of a myth.  But really look at straight relatonships and you'll see the same dynamic regardless.  

Answer 7

If people do it, then it's natural.

We behave according to our nature, so Q.E.D.

Coincidentally, many animals will exhibit homosexual behavior in the wild, so the same points apply.

You may believe, or choose to believe that homosexuality is immoral, but there are rock solid biological arguments supporting its being entirely natural.

Answer 8

We all have a tendency, probably unconscious, to look at the behaviour of other people in a way that makes 'sense' to us.

For this reason, when we see behaviour that seems unusual or out of the ordinary, people often ascribe motivations that make it seem more reasonable and understandable.

The notion that homosexual couples have a 'male' and 'female' partner, mirroring a so-called 'typical' heterosexual relationship is not uncommon, but the reality is, that just as there are very many and diverse types of heterosexual relationships, so there are very many and diverse homosexual relationships.

And, just as among heterosexuals you will find people who have very extreme sexual behaviours ('nymphomaniacs', 'playas', fetishists, etc), there are also homosexuals who have very flashy and colourful lifestyles.

You say your relative is in a relationship where she is 'the feminine one', but what does that mean? That she wears dresses and her partner doesn't? That you've been to their home and your relative did the cooking?

Chances are, on other occasions they behave differently ~ just as in most heterosexual relationships strict 'traditional' gender roles aren't always active (for example, lots of wives mow the lawn, lots of husbands do the dishes, sometimes these chores are shared).

We often see what we expect to see about other people's lives, without necessarily seeing everything there is to see.

Cheers :-)

Answer 9

There are genetic, gross anatomical (hypothalamus) and neurochemical/electrical differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals.  Research indicates that there are similar measurable neurological firings in the brains of heterosexual men and L*****n women, and similar firings in the brains of heterosexual women and homosexual men, for example.  Research currently finds also the same pairings related to pheromone responses.  Gender concepts such as "feminine" and " masculine" are subjective and vary from culture to culture, including notions of a "masculine" partner being attracted only to a "feminine" partner or that s*x requires one partner or another to be "dominate" or "submissive".  Dominate/Submissive notions of sexual attraction are learned behaviors, acculturations.

Answer 10

i think that even people in hetero relationships take on these roles... and they are only seen as masculine or feminine because they are the sexes which commonly accept that role... for example my bf is very much the masculine one in my relationship but in my parents relationship it is my mum who "wears the pants" so i don't think it has any thing to do with the fact that they g*y but the fact that you cant really have a stable relationship if you don't know where you fit in that relationship... it would either be a constant war between what i want to do and what he wants to do or we would never do any thing becasue neither of us would be the proactive one.... not that i dont make decisions in our relationship but we have split the kinds of decisions between the two of us... for example... i decide what ill be cooking for dinner where as he would decide where we go out for dinner... so over all i make more decisions on it but his decisons are like more imprtant so its even.

Answer 11

Since homosexuality also occurs in the animal world, I would consider that it's something that occurs naturally the way that some people are right and left handed.  The way that some people might be good in math and others better in vocabulary.  

Answer 12

It isn't... it doesn't make them bad people since what's natural isn't necessarily morally better. That's a naturalistic fallacy and they have their sexual preference which is their own nature even if it isn't "natural".

But our purpose within nature is to procreate. Until homosexuals can do that with one another it isn't natural in the same way that someone is born with downsyndrome. They're a product of nature but they're not natural

edit: talk about the pot calling the kettle black pricilla...

Christianity is a belief and as far as beliefs go it isn't a particularly logical one.

In contrast homosexuality is a predisposition. They are not analogous so your use of christianity as an analogy was false merely because people are never born believing in it, they are always conditioned.

Answer 13

It's quite simple. Someone who is L*****n is a woman that's more attracted sexually to the female body than the male body. Someone who is a male g*y is a man that's more attracted to the male body than the female body. Some are more masculine and some are more feminine. Having someone masculine and someone feminine helps balance things out, also. Also, a lot of times a masculine male will be attracted to a feminine MALE, not a female of either or a feminine male will be attracted ot a masculine MALE, not a female. Vice versa with females, too. Or a masculine male may be attracted to a masculine male and so on. The possiblities are endless but what it boils down to is what a homosexual male is sexually attracted to is the male body a and what a homosexual female is sexually attracted ot is the female body.

Answer 14

It might help to know that *some* g*y and L*****n relationships involve the stereotypical masculine/feminine role.

Not most. Some.

You're drawing your "experience" from Hollywood images? You don't REALLY think Hollywood relationships reflect relationships in the real world, do you?

Answer 15

homosexuality is not natural. it doesnt mean that they are scum. it just means its abnormal. a mental disease is what it is.

until 2 persons of the same s*x can procreate......then homosexuality is non normal or natural.  

Answer 16

I have virtually no experience with homosexual couples, since I've only met 2 people in my life who I know for a fact were g*y at one time or another.  I say that because one of them changed to a heterosexual and is married with kids now, and the other one is trying to change his homosexuality-out of his own free will I might add.  That right there makes the "it's natural" argument very suspect to me.

If I ever meet a homosexual couple I'll be sure to look for this.

Answer 17

Because being a masculine or feminine type doesn't always coorelate to your reproductive organs. Some straight men are less masculine than other straight men. Some woman are more the man in heterosexual relationshiops. What I'm trying to say is that gender isn't one or the other and neither is sexuality.

Answer 18

You know I have kind of been pondering it too. I have noticed all the g*y couples around me are like that. There is one that portrays feminine characteristics and one that portrays masculine characteristics.

My high school friend was the girl in her relationship. Her girlfriend was pretty manly. She sported short hair, wore guy clothes, and honestly appeared to be a guy if you weren't close enough to her.

I think God made the ideal combo: man and woman. Both provide what the other needs or is lacking. We complement one another. In a relationship that is of one s*x, I think they try to mimic male and female roles because that's what works best.  

Answer 19

you obviously have a stereotype in your head about g**s. i'm a L*****n and so is my wife . we bth are feminine and love being woman. theres no butch/fem thing going on . i know g*y men that are with men and you wouldn't know they were a couple until they told you becasue they look "normal" by your standards.

Please dont judge people like this , we are individuals and everyones diffrent. Dont fall victim to ignorance.

Answer 20

I'm not sure where your "almost always" comes from.  Perhaps what you've seen in the media?  In fact, many same s*x relationships are relationships of equality where neither takes a dominant or submissive role, or traditional male or female roles.  And scientists have clearly established that homosexuality is present at birth.  What could be more natural?

Answer 21

My boyfriend is much more "feminine" and I am much more "masculine." We have opposite gender tendencies. I think this goes pretty much across the board--social behaviors are in flux. Maybe not though. I can't give you a scientific answer. That's Patois' job, And she did a very good job of it indeed.

P.S. Chevalie... No one ever suggested that everyone is g*y. Your argument about no more procreation is drastically blown out of proportion.  

Answer 22

That doesn't follow. An individual's persona in a relationship may be as "masculine" or "feminine" as ever with no regard to their sexual orientation.

Answer 23

It's not "natural".  Natural basically means it was meant to be.  No, clearly the idea our creator had was man with women.  If you believe in the bible, you will see that God created Eve (a women) for Adam (a man).

Answer 24

Alright, here's the genuine scientific answer.  Homosexuality is seen throughout Kingdom Animalia and we're part of that kingdom.  Homosexuality is less common than heterosexuality but homosexuality hasn't been termed a "disease" for many decades.  If someone has a different sexual preference then it's their nature, and frankly attempts to "artificially convert" homosexuals simply don't work.

There's nothing natural about a hot Porscha lady being with Rosie O'Donnell, that's cruel and unusual punishment.  No human being should have to spend time near Rosie O'Donnell, that's entirely unnatural and egregious.

Answer 25

I don't see how that would negate the biology of homosexuality.

Although, I am sure that that is not the case in every single homosexual relationship, anyway. Some, perhaps, but not most.

Answer 26

I've always considered homosexual tendency to be mainly in the mind but to be fair there is some recent unbiased research which could indicate that it happens at birth. The theory is that the firstborn boy and girl are 'normal' but younger siblings may have an increasing tendency to be born homosexual. Apparently the mother's body 'immunises' itself against subsequent heterosexual births for reason unknown.

As to the other part of your question, yes, homosexuals, be they males or females, do tend to mimic normal male/female relationships. Go into any homosexual clubs or bars and you can see this acting itself out.

Answer 27

Not sure I understand whatever connection you're trying to make. All of the homosexual relationships I know contain no "masculine" or "feminine" versions.

Do you mean one partner tends to exhibit stereotypically "masculine" characteristics and the other partner tends to exhibit stereotypically "feminine" characteristics, regardless of s*x?

Answer 28

I don't think there always is a feminine/masculine.

There happens to be alot.

There are lipstick lesbians, and boyish one's.

It's just like a tomboy, & girly girl.

I don't even think it has to do with the relationship.

It could, but so what, if it is natural, god could of sent down masculine g*y's and lesbiens, and feminine g*y's and lesbiens.

Still natural, this doesn't mean anything..

I don't see your question and concern really, homosexuality is natural,..  and it's possible some homosexuals are more girly/manly than others.. so what?

Answer 29

But Proud, you are a homophobe.

Why pretend to be something you're not? i.e., tolerant. You're not.