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How is it so many people think the Universe ceated itself out of nothing not thinking of the Creator Himself?

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How is it so many people think the Universe ceated itself out of nothing not thinking of the Creator Himself?

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  1. "Matter can neither be created nor destroyed" meaning the material for the universe has been here and it just changed form into the universe we know today.it's much more sensible to believe that than a guy in the sky said"let it be so"


  2. it's nuts. I don't know why scientists can't even get it together. they said that if a theory is true, then it can be somehow proven and repeated many times in an experiment. well, I have never heard of any other world created with humans on it; neither have I seen it happen in an experiment. Even scientists believe that nothing comes out of nothing. so the world coming out of nothing simply don't make sense; period!

  3. Lots of good answers here. Nobody with half a mind can believe that the universe was created out of nothing. Certainly there was SOMETHING that gave rise to the creation of the universe. Personally I don't believe that it was a creator in the form of a god, but rather some other event, possibly from another universe that gave rise to the 'big bang'. As others have said, matter can neither be created or destroyed; it just ends up in different states depending on where it is in its cycle..

  4. Because those so many people are not stuck on a baby mind of anthropomorphizing everything to match their mommy-daddy fixation.

  5. I have not met many people that think the universe "created itself out of nothing" perhaps if you would take the time to actually learn what current cosmological models of the universe have to say about how the universe came to be it would absolve your confusion.

  6. Well we all have our own answers. To each their own. I like to think their is no creator. The universe, matter, anti-matter, and/or anything or nothing has always been. It's not created nor does it "blink out". It just goes through a never-ending cycle of change, a different form and ways of existence. What is here now, will change into something else later. So in essence, everything creates and changes itself. Self-creation.

  7. I certainly believe in Creative forces similar to what we understand God to be, but if anything exists including God it either was made or sprung out of nothing or always was.

    Theist as an act of faith assume that God is the instigator of everything but then get stumped with explaining where God came from.

    Scientists as part of their creed tend to look for concrete answers to questions and avoid the use of unknowables such as God as explanations, choosing things they can know and predict.

    I believe that providing God as an answer achieves very little unless we have an explanation of how God came about and what role he or she plays in concrete experience of life.

    My explanation is that if something like God exists it is likely an evolved organism / mind such as our universe or megaverse.

    Such cosmic entities can be demonstrated to likely exist and would guide or influence human existence in much the same ways as gods are supposed to.

    However much like our relationships with our loved ones on Earth much of our relationship is based on fantasy as hard truth.

    If there is something out there that we choose to cal God the truth about such a being would likely be far from our imaginings and religious claims as an ant's understanding of Greek Philosophy.

    God is not needed to explain the universe and if we do find something godlike out there (or deep within) many religions would likely reject it if it differed from our expectations or traditional understandings of God that religions hold so dearly.

  8. First of all, if there was a creator, wouldn't Himself be a Herself? Giving birth is generally something women do, not men.

    Second of all, people don't like believing fairy tales written by middle-eastern people of Jewish faith nearly 2000 years ago when they were high on Acid, and compiled into a "holy" bible that spawned a religion intent on controlling the population in a very non-threatening manner.

    EDIT: I'm not meaning to be rude. If you believe in a creator, sobeit. But you shouldn't ask why sensible people don't believe in a god unless you want us questioning why crazy believe in a god.

    EDIT2: straight... what are you talking about? You think that scientists should be able to repeat the creation of the universe, or else their theory is invalid? You say we haven't found other human-filled planets, ergo god must exist?

    So according to you, if we can't prove it then it's wrong. Gee, that's pretty much the argument why god doesn't exist. If god is real, prove it. Oh wait, you can't. God is a theory.

  9. This whole God/Creator thing is just such a load of rubbish!

    We have to thank god for the flowers, the food, the beautiful sunset and all the nice things.

    Everything bad is mankind's fault.If there is a god, why can't he take responsibility? And if there is a god, and he so loved man, then why did he send George W. Bush?

  10. The basic tenet of science is that the universe operates on natural forces that can be understood...no magical beings or powers are in evidence...and that this has always been the case.

  11. No one has ever said that the universe was created out of NOTHING.  Matter and energy are intraconvertable.  There may be other forms that we are not aware of that exist in a different combination of dimensions.

    Assuming that there was a God that created the universe doesn't answer any serious question.  You are left with the question then what created God.  If you say that God created God, then you are right back to a self creating universe with a different name.  

    The interesting point is that the universe must have has some sort of existence before the Big Bang.  Nothing comes from nothing, not something.

  12. Some of us want a bit more proof

    than because The Bible said it was so.

    I have a book that says:

    "Mary had a little lamb,

    The doctor was surprised,

    But when Old McDonald had a farm,

    The doctor nearly died."

    I have my doubts about both books.

  13. The exhaustive possibilities:

    1: the universe was created.

    2: the universe always existed.

    3: the universe just happened into existence.

    -If (1) is true, God exists.

    -If (2) is true, Gods existence is really not necessary.

    -If (3) is true, Gods existence is really not necessary.

    Yet, like (1), (2), and (3), we can ask all the same things about God, namely either:

    1*: God was created.

    2*: God always existed.

    3*: God just happended into existence.

    So, it seems we can just skip a conceptual step by going for either (2) or (3), because even if (1) is true, we still have (1*) (2*) and (3*) left that demands an answer comparable with any answer for why (1*) (2*) of (3*) is true. This ought to make good sense.


  14. first the universe didn't create itself. it just is. something cannot create itself, that is a logical impossibility.

    if the creator created the universe, there i wonder where he was when he did it, since the universe is place, and before the universe there was no place to be in. also, that means that the creator would have to have spontaneously appeared in a complex form, able to know all and be all powerful, and one of the arguments that there must be a creator is because life is too complex to have not been created by an intelligence. so then, who created the creator?

    it's not necessarily that so many people didn't think of the creator himself. in alot of cases they thought about it and then decided to reject the idea.

  15. Because when you don't have a good factual answer for a question you make up some c**p to explain it away. science is funny like that.

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