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How is it that prince Charles and the prince of wales?

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okay we all know that prince Charles and princess Diana was the prince and princess of wales but how is that when Charles parents are the king and queen of england, where im coming from is wouldn't that make Charles the prince of england.

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  1. "Prince of Wales" is a courtesy title, usually given to the heir to the throne.  It doesn't imply any more authority or stature in Wales than in any other part of the U.K.  He is also Prince of the United Kingdom, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Chester, Earl of Carrick, and Baron of Renfrew - "Prince of Wales" is just one of many titles he holds, but as the highest distinct one it is the one he uses to identify himself.


  2. Charles's parents are not king and queen, his father is only a prince because he is a foreign immigrant with no direct line of succession to the throne.

    The title Prince of Wales is completely meaningless being just a ceromonial title to enhance the importance of the heir to the throne.

    Charles has no connection with Wales and does not even live there, but he does take money from his estates there.

  3. Actually, before Elizabeth II's father changed the letters patent, Prince Charles would have only inherited a title from his father as the Earl of Merioneth. At the time, Princes and Princesses  only received their titles as children and grandchildren of male-line sovereigns. When George VI changed the letters patent before Charles birth, he was correctly styled as a Prince, but at birth, he was known as Prince Charles of Edinburgh (after his father, the Duke of Edinburgh).

    When QEII became Queen, Charles moved into the position of heir apparent and became formally known as the Duke of Cornwall (the title designated for the heir apparent since Edward III.)  QEII named him Prince of Wales in 1958, but his formal investiture as Prince of Wales did not occur until 1969.

    "While the expression "prince of Great Britain" appears under the Hanoverians (e.g., the styles of the prince of Wales in 1714, 1729, 1751) and that of "Prince of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland" under Victoria and George V (e.g., the styles of the prince of Wales in 1841 and  1911), the only formal grant of the style prior to 1914 (in 1905) does not specify any territorial designation.  That of 1914 (for the children of the duke and duchess of Brunswick) adds a territorial designation ("of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland") to an existing title of prince, whereas their father and aunts had been declared "born prince/ss of Great Britain and Ireland" before.  The 2nd duke of  Albany is called "born prince of Great Britain and Ireland" in the consent to his marriage.  Princess Frederica of Hanover is called "princess of  Great Britain and Ireland", while the members of the next generation of Cumberlands (1900-13) are called "born prince(ss) of Great Britain and Ireland"..  But Ernst August, in 1951, is called "prince of  Great Britain"."

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  4. Prince Charles is the son of the now Queen Elizabeth II, his father Prince Phillip is not a King. The title of Prince of Wales is very old. It would take too long to go through  the rest of the history,but maybe now you have a better idea.

  5. It is his title bequeathed to him by the Queen. He is a Prince of Great Britian and Ireland however his title is Prince of Wales. This title historically, has been given by the monarch to the heir to the throne. Thus, when Charles is King, he will most likely make William Prince of Wales.

  6. why?  the monarch has to be a king or a queen

  7. There isn't a title for "Prince of England." Historically, the first born son to a monarch was always given the title "Prince of Wales. I assume the reason behind this is because when the Prince does become a monarch, he will be titled as "King of England."

    However, the title "Princess of Wales" does not refer to the first born daughter of a monarch, but only a courtsey title for the wife of "Prince of Wales. Daughters born to a monarch are given the title "Princess of England."

  8. England and Wales, are just two parts of a mega-country called the UK. Queen Elizabeth isn't just the queen of England, but Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, and many overseas territories. Prince of Wales is an old title that started back centuries ago due to a bitter battle and Queen Elizabeth II decided to crown her eldest son (back at the age of 19) as Prince of Wales. It's expected that upon Charles' ascension to the throne, William will be the new Prince of Wales.

  9. Becasue as Wales is a sub state/country thingy it makes since to have the heir to the throne carry that title. Being a prince or princess of wales has been part of royal tradition for ages. It is the heir to the crown. Usually being made Prince or Princess of england means you are sister or eice or something to the King/Queen.

  10. The Prince of Wales is the title that the heir apparent to the throne of the UK wears. Charles is a prince of England and the United Kingdom by birth, as are his brothers. And incidentally,Charles' parent are Queen Elizabeth II and Philip,Duke of Edinburgh,the Prince Consort. Elizabeth is monarch and her husband is a prince consort;there can be no kings in the UK as long as there is a Queen Regent.

  11. The Prince of Wales has traditionally been the title of the Heir apparent of the English (and later British) throne since the time of Edward I. In 1301 he gave his eldest son (later Edward II) the title "Prince of Wales". Wales is a principality and Edward I conquered Wales and executed the last remaining native "prince" in 1282.

    The Queen is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This includes 4 territories/countries: Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland.

    Prince Philip is not King, the UK hasn't had a King since 1952 when the Queen ascended the throne. Charles is a Prince of the United Kingdom not just England.

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