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How is it that thes party of "tolerance" and acceptance is trashing a woman because her daughter is pregnant?

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How is it that thes party of "tolerance" and acceptance is trashing a woman because her daughter is pregnant?

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  1. Because that woman has espoused the ideas of abstinence only and no birth control and no s*x before marriage, making it an issue.

    It isn't her daughter, it is that she made the issue herself.


  2. They can't handle it when they actually have to practice what they preach.  Now, if the girl had run out and aborted the baby, then been outed by the media, they'd all be on the girl's side.

    But, they are living their beliefs and being bashed for it by those who live with and stand by a principled life.

    Actually, sounds pretty desparate to me, they can't find anything else so they're going after this.

    As far as family values failing - show me one home that teenagers don't rebel in some way to their parents - the ones that are the most vocal here were probably the most rebellious.  Kids will do what kids do.  I have never heard the republicans saying that there are no teen pregnancies in their homes.  I have heard them say that life is precious and when this happens that the choices to make are to parent the baby or to place for adoption.

    And I hardly think that a political figure's daughter having a baby at 17 is going to do more than Britney or Jamie Spears did to teens following them.

  3. She's being trashed because of her  anti-abortion, anti-birth control, pro-abstinence only stance.  It didn't work with her family so she should quit trying to inflict it on ours.

  4. Wow, I just love how all these Democrats say that it is the Governor's fault that her daughter is pregnant.  Really?  Mrs. Palin caused her daughter to have s*x?  I think not.

    For all you nitwits, "abstinence only" s*x education does NOT teach that birth control is bad or wrong or unavailable.  It teaches that there are very good reasons for NOT having a baby outside of marriage and it teaches the CONSEQUENCES of having unprotected s*x.  The whole point is to reach kids with some values and teach them how to make better choices.  My daughter's "abstinence only" s*x ed class taught the kids plenty - and objectively - about birth control.  

    Believing in abstinence until marriage doesn't mean you don't believe in birth control.  Those are completely separate issues.  

    So Bristol and her boyfriend Levi made the decision that they were going to ignore the values they had been taught AND they were going to ignore what they knew about birth control.  This isn't the fault of either set of parents.  The kids are 17.  They're too old to be chaparoned every minute of every day.  They're old enough to be trusted.  They're old enough to know what they believe and they're old enough to act on those beliefs.  They're also old enough to be responsible for the consequences of their actions.

    Do I have any sympathy for Bristol and Levi, getting married much too young and having a baby to cope with from the very beginning?  NOPE.  Not one whit.  They were stupid, they made a selfish and stupid decision.  They're going to have a rough road ahead of them.  I'm glad they have the support of both their families, because they're going to need lots of emotional support to learn how to be a married couple and to learn how to be parents.

    I'm just astounded that so many people think a 17-year-old should be allowed to have an abortion without parental consent, but if she decides to get married and have the baby somehow it's her mother's fault.  

    By the way ... I don't remember who among the libs here made the nasty comment about how this baby can't be a blessing.  Where is  your common sense?  This baby is a blessing, no matter when or how it was conceived.  What matters to the Palins is that their daughter made a mistake, she's made the decision regarding the baby's life, and everybody moves on from here.  Were her parents furious?  Probably.  Disappointed?  Most definitely.  Do they wonder where they went wrong in teacher her their values?  Of course.  Do they understand that at 17 they can't control her decisions?  Yes.  Amazing.  Personal responsibility.  That's the difference between liberals and conservatives.  Live with the consequences of your decisions.  And that's what Bristol and the Palin family are doing now.

    And for crying out loud, do none of you have anything better to do that slam a 17-year-old who acted just like most of you did at 17?

  5. I think the hypocracy of calling other similar girls "baby killers" and arrogantly opposing s*x-education is a good reason to comment on this incredibly embarrassing spectacle.

  6. It's not that they're trashing her because her daughter got pregnant.  It's because conservatives (i.e. Republicans) have, for years, told everyone how they were the part of "morals and values".  Yet, when one of their members does something like this, all the Republicans turn their collective heads and go "Oh, well as Christians we're not perfect, so things like this are acceptable as long as you go and confess to THE LORD afterwords"  

    If a Democrat were to do something like this (ahem, Bill Clinton, Gov. Spitzer, etc.) Conservatives jump all over them, pointing out how morally bankrupt their collective ideology is.  

    It's like Vice President Cheney's g*y daughter.  Do you ever hear Cheney condemning her?  Do you ever hear conservatives talking about how THEIR ideologies lead to "sin"?  No, of course not.  They just ignore it like it isn't there.  They pretend it doesn't exist.  

    Must be nice to live in a fantasy world where you're always right...

  7. This is unacceptable to bash someone for having a pregnant teen daughter or to bash the teen for being pregnant.  BTW, I'm a Democrat, I don't like Sarah Palin as a VP pick.

  8. Because she is a hypocrite. She says that she believes in the family values, holier-than-thou evangelical agenda yet her own daughter is proof that she lacks those very same family values.

    Not to mention it also reveals the unrealistic nature of abstinence-only education. While I believe abstinence is best (and yes, I AM a liberal. No I don't believe that teenagers should be having s*x), methods of protecting one's self should one choose to have s*x should be taught. It is just realistic and it prevents c**p like this from happening.

  9. Be cause they think babies should die , not be had they see them as Burden, Obama the one that sign the bill, to not let them have medical treatment and they defend him,  and her having the baby goes against all they stand for, I am so ashamed i was a democrat, but never again Will I be called one. As I am not so blood thirsty, that I would want a baby to die. Sick  is what it is,

  10. BECAUSE SHE IS A VP hopeful that's how and that's intolerable. Think about what  all the young girls and ladies are going to think of when they hear that the Vice President's daughter (if they win) had a baby at 17!! I mean I'm I the only one who finds this utterly annoying and hypocritical. We expect our political leaders to adhere to a higher standing, we bashed Kennedy, bashed Clinton, bashed Edwards and now we give excuses for Sarah Palin!!! c'mon. I am not to comfortable thinking about how she would run the country with this track record esp since she runs on family values and abstinence..it's amazing how y'all r spinning this, no wonder John McCain has a serious chance..and we say Obama is the hypnotist. If we can't see through this then................ If for nothing else they have every right to bash her on her hypocrisy, that alone is enough to be called into question like we've done for past politicians including the one's running right now.

  11. We aren't. We're showing the irony of the situation. I have nothing against this young woman. I do take exception to republicans shoving values down my throat then saying this girls pregnancy is a blessing.

  12. I hope you realize, given the woman in question knew her daughter was pregnant before she drew national attention to her family, that this could be taken as whining.  

  13. According to the wisdom of my man, Staver:

    "Staver also criticized anyone who would seek to make it a negative campaign issue: "It's absolutely shameful to put her child in the spotlight. She's not running for office. When someone can't face issues, they try to tear down a family."

    http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080901...

  14. We are trashing because of the hypocracy. The Democrats are not a party of respecting hypocracy.

    As for me, I'm undeclared and just think Bristol is a w***e.

  15. It's just as you said.  They're the party of "tolerance" (with quote marks), not the party of tolerance (without quote marks).

    If you ask me, the majority of the memberships are both major parties are pretty intolerant, it's just that the Republicans are more honest about it.

  16. Because that woman is supposed to be the "standard" by which the rest of us heathens look up to. SHE FAILED TO LIVE UP THE HER EXPECTATIONS AS A MOTHER!!!

  17. It's not "trashing".

    it's pointing out the usual inconsistencies in the "Do As I SAYYYY" party and Not as I DO.

    Her unwed, teenage daughter is pregnant...........while she is in position to take office, and force her conservative right wing positions on everyone, ......which are totally out of line, with the very situation she is in right now.

    Another case of someone preaching how the rest of us should live.......while not minding her own store.

    It's a fair cop .


  18. It's not intolerance that we have, it's the hypocrisy of family values & yet where are Palin's family's values?


  19. because her daughter is HAVING the baby , and not aborting it for starters. the kid made a mistake , and is doing the right thing and liberals can not stand for it !!  this family is showing it is human and also that they take things in stride. the media will continue to bash them until election day. i believe that the more they do this , the more of a turn off it is for americans, and they will see the democrats and the media for what they are. it shows that republicans do have integrity and will take personal responsibility for their actions . it also proves that republicans have the same problems and issues that democrats have , but choose a different approach to handling them. i will pray for the family , and the health of the new baby. good luck to them , and may God smile on them for standing together during this time.  

  20. Most of the trashing isn't just because the girl is pregnant.

    It is the rumor that the Down Syndrome baby is really the daughters, not the mothers, that this girl is made to deny her own child,

    And now, (the rumor is) they are publically making her pretend she is pregnant to dispell the rumors.

    If that were true, I agree that it would be hideous.

    But I DO NOT believe the rumors to be true.

    Down's Symdrome is very uncommon in births to young mothers.

    And it is very common in births to women in their 40s.

  21. The GOP (God's Only Party) the party of "family values."  They talk the talk but nothing but hypocrites.

  22. Never underestimate the moral corruption of the Democrat Party.

    Never.

  23. This story is actually doing more GOOD than bad for Sarah Palin. The Liberal media is pulling themselves down to a new low but are far as it hurting her the story has actually pulled many people and organizations to her side

  24. I applaud you. The Democrats are suppose to be tolerant of homosexuals yet they can't accept a young woman having a baby. This is "progress" apparently.

  25. No, party is trashing Palin's daughter.  People/trolls on Y/A are laughing about another family/moral values politician who can't live up to their own message.  No one is picking on the daughter, because most of us know that this can happen to anyone.

  26. I'm disturbed by some of those questions.  They seem to go to far.  However you seem to be implying that the questions would be acceptable if they were coming from the right.

  27. To my mind, her worst feature is her Creationist belief, and her second-worst is her Global-Warming denial. Both are symptoms of a person willing to substitute "magical thinking" for reality, and are totally disqualifying for a President of the United States. The pregnant daughter doesn't bother me.

    Oh yes, and I'm a Republican.

  28. I was a democrat for 49 years.

    I will NEVER EVER be one again!!!

    obama says familes are out of bounds, but for 2 days this is all they talk about here.

    this is disgusting behavior and if this is obamas type of change, then so be it. I ill do my damnest to make sure he is not elected. I just 20 minutes ago donated $2300, the max to mccains campaign.

    obamas supporters in here are disgusting!

    I want NOTHING to do with slime like this.

    he has these people so twisted and confused, they cant find the door off his crazy train.



    They are just mad at themselves because obama preached change and gave them nothing. mccain showed real change in his VP pick. and that pisses them off!

      

  29. Think first..."Point out where The Democratic Party is trashing Gov Palin."?????????????

    Do you just answer the questions without reading or do you believe the libs here aren't party of the democratic party?

  30. Can you say 'forked tongue', or double standards?  They want to hold Palin responsible for her daughters actions. I have 3 daughters and let me tell you once they reach  the age of 14, a mom's  influence ends or takes a backseat to  peer pressure. A mother can teach right and wrong and hope and pray the child learns, but there are many outside influences that will shape each child. A mother will stand beside her children even when she knows they have made bad choices, because that is what a mother does.

    If a mother is responsible for all that her children do or become, then can we assume that Obama's mother  influenced him to be a liar. Because that is what he is when he denies he ever attended school as a Muslim. Oh, thats right we must not speak badly of him or his family, but its O.K. for him and his people to speak badly of everyone who doesn't bow down and support him..

  31. Because when you are a politician and in the public eye, anything that you do is under a microscope.  That is the rule of politics.  If you are running for any public office, your private life is not a barrier.  And if there is something in your private life that will upset voters.  Guess what?  Its on the news the next day.

    Unfortunately, this is the case with all political parties.  If you are a public figure, and you have something in your past/present that will upset a "demographic" of voters.  Let it be known. Party affiliation has nothing to do with it.  If the person was a Democratic VP pick, the Republicans and the Independents, would be all over them in a second.  Its not a Party issue.  Its political.  All political.  Exploit your opponent's flaws, weaknesses, short-comings and hope the ones who find it intolerable will switch sides and vote.

    Don't take too much to heart on this.  This is Politics in its purest form.

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