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How is the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay not following Habeas Corpus, Geneva Conventions, etc. ?

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How is the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay not following Habeas Corpus, Geneva Conventions, etc. ?

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  1. The short answer is because Bush is considered by many leading jurists to be the President that has most violated the US Constitution on many fronts.

    Bush has deliberately crapped all over the Constitution and so far in 3 landmark decisions the US Supreme Court has struck down Bush's violations of the Constitution.

    Here are the charges against him:

    http://uniorb.com/RCHECK/Rimpeach.htm

    Thec US Supreme Court decisions:

    http://www.cdi.org/news/law/gtmo-sct-dec...

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/06...

    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/26/...

    While Clinton was impeached for his HIGH CRIME AND MISDEMEANOR for lying about s*x ,Bush who has violated the Constitution,is charged with crimes against humanity in Iraq has gotten away scot free because the impeachment process is first and foremost a POLITICAL process not a legal one and that idiot Pelosi did not have the moral fiber to have Bush impeached and STOPPED .


  2. Damned if I know.

    I don't remember allowing the n**i or j*p prisoners access to our civil courts or allowing them to challenge their detention in Court.

    Maybe the ACLU and the leftist anti-American lawyers should worry about what these lice are doing to the civilized world.


  3. Actually - we are following the rules of the Geneva and Hague conventions.

    Haven't you noticed that none of the people who are claiming we are not can provide a specific incident and a quote from the relevant convention that forbids that action under those circumstances?

    In fact the really humorous thing is that the people demanding that we give them trials are not even aware that doing this is in fact a war crime.

  4. Maybe you should read the law then you'll understand. Start with the Magna Carter There are very few countries in the world that don't respect habeas corpus (ad subjiciendum) Let's see USA, China, North Korea, Iran (see a pattern?)

    Then there's the messy issue of the Geneva convention but were above the law the rest of the world's peons must uphold.

    PS we didn't detain Japanese and Germans in jail indefinitely without charges in isolation 23 hours a day.  They had jobs and friends and didn't live in fear of being inflicted with pain. Things weren't so bad that suicide was out of control. They had a paying job and a reason to get up in the morning, many of them were free to come and go as they pleased.

    This is the most shameful act since Jim Crow. Maybe try to empathies a bit, given our track record there are certainly many innocent men among that group. Their children are growing up without a dad, their spouse had to put her life on hold. In no other country in the world not even China or the USSR at it's peak has anyone been held this long without charges.

    I think Bush deserves to be tried as a war criminal, normally I would preserve the integrity of the office but the man has literally gutted our value system.  It turns out we do torture POW's so were no better then the Vietnamese or Imperial Japanese.  We do have a kangaroo court there is no longer the promise of a fair trial or the right to face your accuser, just like North Korea.Turns out our soldiers do commit war crimes and rape civilians. That they do wantonly kill civilians including children. Just like Zimbabwe On one hand we preach about how important children are so "you don't mind giving up a few rights" while the other hand is killing Iraqi children accidental or not dead is dead If I come roaring into your yard and happen to run over a few of your kids would you accept a "Oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to kill all your kids like that."

    This is what you defend?

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