How long will it take for Palestine to obtain it's independence?

Question

And did the U.N. have any right to chop it in two and give half to the jews?

Answer 1

The conflict has two sides, with both Jews and Palestinians having claims to the region. I don't agree with a particular side, but reading about both sides has led me to understand and rspect both sides much more. These articles are good on explaining the causes and issues on both sides:

Palestinian claims to the land:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...

Israeli/Jewish claims to the land:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...

Answer 2

it can happen only when thy get red of thir selfisness for only thir benefits ,and to be leader for any thing when thy become one hand working only for thir citizens under ocupation

Answer 3

It is going to take a long time but we will get there sooner or later.

The UN and the world have committed a crime against the native people of Palestine.

Answer 4

I'm not sure how long it will take, what the Israelis are offering right now is pretty far from independence, in fact, I'm a little discouraged because it looks more like genocide than independence.  It looks like a continuation of the ethnic cleansing, by starvation and economic strangulation.  Israel will not forgive the Palestinians for their rightful claim to their homes and land.

Suffice to say that as Israel calls for the US to attack Iran, I think more and more people in the US are waking up.  I don't know if the recent dramatic rise in gas prices are due to Israeli threats against Iran as I've heard charged, but in general, those wars and threats of wars are really bad for the US and may in the long run give rise to some re-thinking of US support for Israel.  However, a world-wide recession will bring greater disaster to the poor of the world than the rich like the people in Israel.

No, the U.N. had no right to chop up Palestine without consulting the people of Palestine.  Any recommendation the U.N. made should have at least been offered to the people as a referendum.  I don't see Palestinian independence happening soon, although I always hope the US public will start living up to their ideals such as freedom, justice and equal rights under the law.

P.S. I just read X16's answer references.  Don't bother, the fact content is pretty low compared to the nonsense - "both" sides, the pro-Israel and supposedly pro-Palestinian, are given by the same pro-Israel guy

Answer 5

Hi Bahira

Firstly... may  i say that you are a vocal warrior to the noblest cause of our time  , which is Justice & freedom for  the Palestinian people .

    I will be brief & to the point .

    I agree with Galahad that its a war of atrrition & 15 years sounds about right . But  " Who needs a Guitar " is wrong in thinking that the zionist will attack Iran . The zionist  lobby  in Washington will rather get Americans & their poodles to die fighting their cause for them . Although he is right that  an attack on Iran  would hasten the zionist demise .

    Jurgen... I do not see a military solution to this conflict . I am not what you call a " Peacenik" Just a realist . The zionist are armed to the teeth but the Palestinians are too resilient .We have reached a stalemate & sooner or later there will have to be compromise on both sides.  Although I agree with  "Bravo Sierra"  to an extent & would not trust the zionist. They are trying to create FACTS on the ground whilst talking about peace.

   Of course the U.N had no legal , right whatsoever to divide Palestine. The U.N lost its moral authority when it handed its agenda over to the self serving interest of the so called permanent members.

Answer 6

i look around and too many long time comes to my head,too many long time,way longer than it should be.

and the UN have no right what so ever to do what it did without asking the opinion of the land owners.

Answer 7

About 15 years; five years to develop an organized revolution and a ten-year war of attrition to carry it out.

No. The UN violated the mandate charter which demanded self-determination for all the mandates. The Palestinians were not even consulted; no plebiscite,not even a poll.

Answer 8

I would say less than a year

Answer 9

I wish jesus would hurry a bit. I believe even if Jesus came I think Israelis would as they call it "accidently" bomb him too.

Wow Zeno gave you an intelligent and very sophisticated answer.

Answer 10

Anywhere between ten and twenty years. Recent polls have shown that more Israelies are migrating out of Israel, than immigrants are comming in. If these trends continue, in roughly ten years, Israel will have withered to a shadow of its former self. I must point out that these figures are estimates, actions from Palestinians, Hezbollah, or Syria may or may not cause these trends to speed up. With Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon, and Syria just across the Golan heights- Israel is no longer perceived as prime Levantine real estate. Now that Al-Fatah is rapidly losing all support form the Palestinian public, it would appear that another Intifada is brewing (and it is unlikely that Israel has the stomach for yet another round of internal conflict, especialy since Olmet is being investigated for corruption charges).

While the UN had no legal right to carve up Palestine, the other answers you have received are flawed in claiming that Palestine was not consulted.

On the contrary, Palestine was consulted and the results were returned to the UN in the King-Crane Report. The report showed that 98% of Palestinians were opposed to the creation of a Jewish State in Palestine. The UN ignored the report and created Israel anyways...

Answer 11

Being as how Palestine was the State of Israel first, If you believe the Koran or the Bible or any of thousands of scholars, I think when the People of Palestine choose peace over dogma, there will be peace.

Answer 12

If you are talking all of Mandate Palestine,probably about twenty years and probably a lot of bloodshed. As to the peacenik solution - the two-state/roadmap to peace blather - it is unlikely to result in independence even for the WB and Gaza.

No,the UN did not have the authority to divide it between the Jordanians and the jews.

Answer 13

If Palestinian leaders are not signing with the Zionist State, It's not because they are smart, but because the Zionist state doesn't want.

Why am I saying this, just to say that Palestinians didn't commit to give any piece to the Zionists, so their is no contract signed, unless Abbas will do it, then the UN can act legally in this direction.

Now my last is a saying from the founder Ben Gurion: "When Israel loses its first war, it will be the beginning o the end.", July 2006 against Hizballa.

Based on the Torah the Naturei karta rabbis says that the Zionist state can not live more than 70.!!!

Give it 10 years not more.

Long life Palestine.

Answer 14

when we see Jesus !

Answer 15

Gordon B has made many valuable contributions to this category,but I must correct him on one point,which is really rather crucial: the King-Crane Commission went over in 1919 at the behest of President Wilson and their report was not published until 1922,two years after the establishment of the Jewish Agency - the innocuous-sounding precursor of the present regime - and a year after the British Mandate began. They took no poll,nor was the report a factor in decisions of the League of Nations,still less U.N. decision-making in 1946-47. Truman sent over a similar mission in 1946 led by the American gray eminence of the diplomatic corps,the very astute William Phillips; although this report was also pigeon-holed,Phillips provides a summary in his 1951 autobiography "Ventures in Diplomacy"; he viewed the establishment of a Jewish State as a tragic mistake and a catastrophe for the Palestinians and for peace in the Mideast generally. At no time - either in 1920-21 or in 1946-47 - was any plebiscite conducted to poll Palestinian opinion. Their wishes were not taken into account to any degree whatsoever and their right to self-determination was blandly and cruelly ignored by both international bodies.



There can no longer be any doubt whatsoever that there will  be no peaceful solution; under no circumstance will the Tel Aviv regime voluntarily withdraw from the West Bank or leave the Gaza alone. Thus the Palestinians face either extinction via assimilation in other lands or the inevitable alternative of fighting an anti-colonial war and anyone who imagines that there exist other options is simply refusing to face reality. Bluntly put,their back is against the wall. As a people,it is do or die.

As to the point so often raised regarding inadequate resources,any student of the Algerian War of 1956-63 or for that matter the engagement tactics of the Viet Cong will have to admit that it is indeed possible for a determined people to throw off the yoke of an oppressive power no matter how great the disparity in arms. As to whether the Palestinians have the right stuff,it has been sixty years since the Nakba and not only have they not thrown in the towel but rather to the contrary we have consistently seen an upward arc of armed resistance. To anyone who knows the history of revolution,both of the Intifadas are classic precursors of a forthcoming full-scale revolution. I know of no revolution that has not been preceded over a twenty to forty year period with successive uprisings of this nature. Every American knows the "Boston Tea Party" of 1765 was merely the first "spectacular"  in a series of periodic uprisings that would lead inexorably  to the outbreak of a full-blown revolution in 1776.  The jews may have preserved themselves with a two-state solution but that has obviously been removed from consideration,assuming they were ever serious in the first place,which I doubt.

As it stands,the revolution is forthcoming,it is inevitable and like any revolution it will be long and bloody and it's specific course as unpredictable as an avalanche. Powerful forces are released that have been held in check for decades. In the immediate sense,it will cost the Palestinians dearly; in the long run they will emerge a free people. There will be no half-a-loaf solution in the final end and no revolution has ever resolved itself with a negotiated settlement.

As to the U.N. it is like it's predecessor the plaything of the super-states and nothing more. It has never formally or by implication recognized the right of an oppressed people to revolt and seize power,nor will it ever do so, and no revolutionary should ignore this. From "Red" China in 1948 to the Iranian Revolution of 1979,any revolutionary government will be treated as a pariah state by this august U.S.-based entity for generations to come. This must be accepted as a given lest it deter a proud people from their historical mission.

Answer 16

If the Jews in Palestine attack Iran, I see the Palestinian independence within 5 years. The UN don't know sheet, it is easily influenced. I think no free nation should be a UN member because the basis of the UN (the permanent members) itself is the greatest bias.

Answer 17

Palestine will not be independent in near future!

Honestly, you guys will remain in mess until the return of Jesus Christ.

Earlier than this, I see not any improvement in the situation.

Answer 18

how long is a piece of string and no the UN did not have the right