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How many mutations over millions of years can lead to a new species?

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How many mutations over millions of years can lead to a new species?

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  1. Oh shiny!

    So much misinformation in so little space.

    OK. rather them spend three days pointing out what's wrong, I'll just point out that the creationist v. evolution debate isn't a bunch of negative ads in a mud slinging political campaign. Throwing mud doesn't make your side clean, much less right.

    Problem is 90% of creationist "research" is directed at finding flaws in evolutionary theory. Yet, after 150 years it's still around. Ever notice that while Adam and Eve often come up, nobody mentions that the bible says the earth is flat? That it's covered with a dome of crystal (hence aircraft can't fly, much less spaceships) Then there's the rationalizations about how Cain found a wife.

    Other then the literal, biblical version, the majority of creationist theories (and they are only theories) include evolutionary change as part of the mechanism for that theory.


  2. It only takes 30 - 40 generations, with humans, to produce change in an isolated population. I'd estimate somewhere between 50,000 - 250,000 years for a new species, however. Go to http://www.talkorigins.org and study the timelines of Homo Neanderthalensis and Homo Sapiens Sapiens, to get a better idea.

  3. All it takes is one successful mutation.... DUH

  4. Well, mutations happen all the time, the majority of them are just neutral.  The cause of change in species can be better understood by linking evolutionary change byway of mutation to necessity in evironment.  Only a positive mutation will yeild higher rates of selection in the processes and those might come in bunches when environment creates the need for new adaptive traits.  

    So better than asking how many mutations, ask what changes in environment will or have already caused changes in a species.

  5. Thank GOD for copy and paste. It would take me to long if I had to type this out every time.

    Evolution is not a fact. It is based on lies, lies, lies, and more lies. If people would open their eyes and see for them-self, instead of blinding following what they are told, people would see this.

    Here is my usual answer to evolution questions...

    Evolution is built on lies and deceptions. Only people that refuse to open their eyes and see the truth can believe in it.

    Here is a small part of that truth...

    Evolution teaches that we came from animals.

    Evolution teaches that animals came from Amphibians.

    Evolution teaches that Amphibians come from sea life.

    Sea life from single-cell life.

    Single cell life from chemicals.

    Chemicals from rocks that were rained on for years.

    Conclusion, all live came from rocks.

    Which is more likely, that an intelligent created life, or that nothing did, and what about bio-genesis?

    The Evolutionist base their belief in Evolution on the fact that “Micro-evolution” is true. What they do not tell is that there are 6 different meanings to the word Evolution, and only “Micro-evolution” has ever been observed.

    1) Cosmic Evolution (Never Observed) The creation of time, space and matter. (The Big Bang)

    2) Chemical Evolution (Never Observed) Production of heavy elements from hydrogen.

    3) Steller Evolution (Never Observed) The formation of stars, planets, and solar systems.

    4) Organic Evolution (Never Observed) Life from random chemical.

    5) Macro-Evolution (Never Observed) One animal mutating into another.

    6) Micro-Evolution. (Observed) Slight changes in a species. A better name for this would be “Adaptation”

    The Sun is Shrinking.

    o.1% would mean a half-life of 10,000 years, so 10,000 years ago, it would be twice as big as it is now, 20,000 years, 4 times as big, 30,000 years, 8 times as big...

    The inverse square law means the gravity would be 64 times then what it is now. What would it be in 65 million years?

    Carbon dating is based on 3 assumptions that can not be proven.

    1. The amount of carbon-14 in the body is the same as in the air.

    2. The amount that was in it at the time of death is the same as in the air today.

    3. Nothing has removed or washed-out any of the carbon-14

    4. The rate of decay is a constant.

    1,3,and 4 are assumptions. There is no way to prove them.

    2 was proven wrong at lest twice, never proven right. The amount of Carbon-14 in the air is still increasing.

    The Geological Columns.

    Evolutionist believe that the Geological Columns prove that the Earth is millions of years old because each layer is a different age. What they do not tell is that the layers are not even. There could be 50 layers in 1 spot, 30 layers a mile away. And 80 layers another mile.

    Also they do not tell that there are trees and animals buried in the layers crossing dozens of layers and some time upside down.

    There is only 2 possibilities for this...

    1) The plant or animal was there for centuries waiting to be buried before it decayed. Many of the trees would have to balance upside-down, and many animal, such as whales, would have to balance on their tail fins against wind, rain, and vibrations from other animals walking/running for centuries.

    2. The plant or animal was buried quickly. This would require that they be under water since only water makes dirt settle in layers quickly.

    The Van-Allen Radiation Belt.

    The Earths Magnetic field is slowly getting weaker. It has a half-life of 1450 years. This means that it is losing ½ of its strength every 1450 years.

    Time Magnetic strength

    2,000 AD 1

    555 AD 2

    900BC 4

    2,350BC 8

    3,800BC 16

    About 6000 years ago (The time of Genesis) it would have been about 16 times as strong as it is now. A magnet field of that power would stop the venom of snakes from being harmful.

    About 4000 to 4500 years ago (The time of The Great Flood) it would have been about 8 times as strong as now.

    About 2000 years ago (The time Of Jesus, The Christ) it would have been about 3 times as strong as now.

    Now, lets see how strong it would have been just 50,000 years ago.

    5,250BC 32

    6,700BC 64

    ---

    50,200BC-68,719,476,736

    Sixty eight Billion, Seven hundred and nineteen Million, Four hundred and seventy six thousand, seven hundred and thirty six times what is it now.

    What would it have been 65,000,000 years ago?

    Many Evolutionist claim that the reason the Earths magnetic field is getting weaker is because it is reversing. They say that it has reversed several times in history. If this was true then that would mean that every time it reversed, there would be a time of neutral magnetic field. This would mean that there was no magnetic field at these times. If there is no magnetic field, then there is no Van-Allen Radiation belt, and all the X-Rays, Gamma-Rays, and other forms of radiation from the sun would hit the earth directly, destroying all life on the land, and making the oceans hot enough to boil cooking all life in the waters. Evolution would have to start all over after every reversal.

    How do stars form?

    There are many ideas about this subject, but no way to know for sure.

    Some believe that stars form from clouds of gases collecting together. As they compress closer together, they get hotter and finally ignite into a star.

    This has been proven to be impossible. As the gases collect, there would be 2 forces at work. The gravity pulling them together, and the pressures pushing them apart. The pressure pushing them apart would be between 50 and 100 times stronger then the gravity pulling them together. This would be like a balloon inflating itself from the gravity of the air inside pulling more air in with no help from a outside source.

    Another possible explanation would be that a star or supernova explodes close to the gas cloud.

    The problem with this idea is that the shock wave would not compress the gases, it would sweep then away and scatter them even more then they are so that they can not collect. Look at a leaf blower.

    Another possible explanation is that 20 stars explode at the same time all around this gas cloud.

    The problem with this idea is that 20 stars would have to die for 1 to form. 400 stars would have to die for those 20 to exist, and 8,000 would have to die for those 400 to exist, and 160,000 to make them. How far back can it go, and how did the first generation of stars from?

    The several stages of evolution have all been proven to be wrong.

    1) Lucy.

    A 3 foot skeleton of a chimp, the “evidence” that she was becoming human was her knee joint, which was found more then a mile away, and over 200 feet in the earth.

    2) Heidelberg Man.

    Built by a jaw bone that was considered to be quite human.

    3) Nebraska Man.

    Built from a pigs tooth

    4) Piltdown Man.

    The jaw was a modern ape

    5) Peking Man.

    Lived 500,000 years ago, but no remains were ever found.

    6) Neanderthal Man.

    Old Man with arthritis.

    7) New Guinea man.

    ? I have never been able to find any info except that this one was found in New Guinea.

    8) Gro-Magnon Man.

    Skeletal Structure is exactly the same as modern man.

    PS: the only diploma Darwin got other then Highschool was a docteran of divinity..

    Your GREAT SCIENTIST was not a scientist at all, he was a preacher.

    Lets the thumb downs begin...

  6. Look at all the differences in dogs and they still are the same species as their parent the wolf. It would take lots of time(10s of thousands), lots of parentage(millions), and Isolation in that specific gene pool. This is why insects and other lower species can prove the Evolution theory.

  7. A DNA variation of 0.4% among Cichlid fish causes speciation.

    http://hcgs.unh.edu/CichlidEvol/CichlidE...

    The actual number of genes would be a bit pointless, as different species have a different number of genes.

  8. Not one . Someone please point out to truth sleuth, that a dog is still essentially a wolf. there is no new species, and there never has been. Now, If he can breed a species of dog that talks through it's a**s like truth sleuth does, then he might be getting somewhere.

  9. A lot.

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