How many women on G&WS feel this way?

Question

Posted earlier:

""I think I feel I have to be sexist in order to prove to men we're just as intelligent and good as them. And what do men expect after YEARS of suppression? For me to just sit down and shut up? I don't think so.

Until inseccure men become clever enough to realise the real reasons for their sexism, I will continue to fight my corner brutally".

Answer 1

Sorry, I'm not a hypocrite.

Answer 2

I am a history buff about the earliest history of human rights.  I am intrigued by how our species decided we have "inalienable rights" and how universal all the different tribes and cultures have defined what rights Life has.  I'm into the preciousness of Life as a philosophical concept of intellectual exploration.  Anyway, one of the aspects of the rise of women into legal protections for their "inalienable rights" that I am utterly fascinated by is their lack of violence.  No other oppressed or otherwise segment of humanity has EVER gotten legal protections for their rights without bloodshed, revolutions, war, genocide, etc.  

I've spoken recently with some historians about this matter of Third Wave feminism evolving into something more militant.  The thought had NEVER crossed my mind, but, worldwide, violence is rising in all peoples' social behaviors.  The rise in violent behavior among girls, though, surpasses the rise in boys.  Certainly, the stew of our current cultural influences is measureably breeding more magical-thinking and less critical-thinking / rationality.  Lower levels of social consciousness always lead to more aggression.  Something's changing in the social consciousness overall and we are all becoming more aggressive as members of that social consciousness and that plays into women's tone of voice and uninhibited expressions.  

BUT, after tens of thousands of years of brutally restricting when - where - what - how loudly - etc. a woman may speak at all, it is certainly understandable that in the few decades since women have been "freed" from those brutal restrictions that they voice their opinions with a bit of understandable gusto.  Personally, I do not know why women didn't just poison more men than they did.  I'm not advocating that at all.  What I mean is women traditionally used methods like poisoning to politically have a "voice", just as men use bayonets and bullets politically as a "voice".

It puzzles me why men have thought it righteous to gut each other and wage huge wars over c**p like taxation without representation yet women chose a non-violent approach to securing legal protections for their inalienable rights.  Maybe women are just waking up enough to really feel confident and self-sufficient enough to be freeing themselves from the dangerous, crippling dependency and domination within their families and communities enough to feel safe about expressing OUTRAGE after tens of thousands of years of being oppressed and put down and reduced and told we are stupid and inferior and s***s and whores and c@nts, raped, used, owned like property, beaten, murdered by the millions, dumped, denied any chance to support ourselves except as prostitutes, locked of school, locked out of science and arts and out of the very pulse of human social civilization and required to sit with their ankles crossed like "ladies" or handmaidens on the sidelines. I think men should count their blessings rather than whine too much about "tone of voice".  I mean, if someone tried to mess with my rights today like take my vote away, I'd burn his world into ashes and then hunt him down. BUT, I would do it with a most ladylike "tone of voice", mind you. lol.  

Women, just like men, are beginning to realize how prescious our rights are and we would fight and kill, brutally, to protect our rights and your rights in this democracy.  I swore to do EXACTLY that when I joined the United States Army.  Anyone with a problem about that line Americans draw in the sand over our rights needs to get out of America.

Answer 3

An excellent example of why men should fight feminism at all costs.

Instead of spewing the typical "all men are bad" feminist nonsense, when will feminists start to take the "I am a woman, I have benefits, and I have responsibilities"?

Answer 4

If think you need to put up such questions more subtly for honest opinions from feminists.

Answer 5

No, I have few issues with men and this is ironic considering I grew up before feminism bored itself into the minds of so many females...seems like the fewer grievances they have, the more virulent their fear and hatred of men is....lol..

Answer 6

Why do you keep asking these questions when you know that you, and other anti-feminists on here, are just going to turn around and accuse the feminists (and probably other women too) of lying? I really don't know what you're trying to accomplish with such underhanded tactics except trying to slur us. It's certainly no way to involve people in constructive dialogue. Note the knee jerk reaction of some posters who seem to have seen 'feminists' where you said 'women'. Some don't seem to be able to tell the difference.

My answer for the record is no, I don't feel that way. I don't feel the need to prove to men that I'm 'as intelligent and good as them'. I don't spend all my time comparing the IQ scores and university/school grades of men and women/boys and girls, and looking into brain sizes etc. (unlike some men here, I might add).

Then again I haven't experienced extreme sexism first hand, and I might feel quite differently if I had been prevented from doing things just because I'm a woman.

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Answer 7

I understand what she means and commend her for her honesty. Personally I don't feel that I must be sexist to prove any point, but if that is the only way to get through the grey matter, then I may reluctantly stoop to the same level.

Answer 8

I think that statement encapsulates everything that is wrong with the world.

Answer 9

Honestly, I thought of asking this same question.

"to prove to men we're just as intelligent and good as them" - First off, why do women have to prove to men? Do all men expect this to be proven to them? It's unfortunate that someone has to feel this way. She needs to stop reading femminist literature and then rethink.

Answer 10

Not me.

Answer 11

Seriously, some women still think they are not allowed to vote. Come on, women have just as many rights if not more rights then men these days. She sounds just like a black person who thinks they are entitled to retribution because their great great great grandparent was a slave. Well guess what, my great grandma was a bought slave from Ireland and she worked right here in the U.S.A. you don't hear me screaming about how I should get paid because someone wronged my ancestors! You don't hear me screaming because women didn't have the same rights as men 100 years ago when I wasn't even around! It's 2008 not 1908! Stop looking for a reason to be offended and feel blessed to be born or live in a free country where you do have rights.

Answer 12

Um ... 2%?

Answer 13

I in no way feel this way.  I can prove myself without putting others down or being a hypocrite.

Answer 14

Two wrongs don't make a right....and for women to be sexist is wrong as well as the men who do that.

Answer 15

I don't feel that way. I think being militant doesn't help anybody. But then again, I'm not a fighter (mostly b/c I wouldn't be able to stop).

I follow the Jesus/Gandhi/MLK model: let's all just get along.

Answer 16

I've noticed that some feminists seem to feel the need to compensate for "centuries of oppression" from men. I'd rather just be happy to be equal. :)