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How much do the english actually know about croke park history?

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  1. I know that when it was built, Rule 42 decreed that only Gaelic games ie GAA, Hurling etc may be played on its turf and that 'English' games were not allowed as there was more anomosity toward the English back then and Croke Park was to be a symbol of Irish sport.

    However with the decay of Landsdown Road, the Irish football and rugby teams were soon to be home less, so with much debate over the last 4 (ish) years, the Croke park commitee decided to let them play there.

    And a fine stadium it is too.


  2. they don't know anything i was raised in England and they don't recognise anything about their history in Ireland, it is not taught in the schools, they have bigger fish to fry IE world wars and the many kings and battles the English have fought around the world. you probably have many stories about what they have done to your countrymen, but they will just refer you back to the terrorist atrocities that have been committed and use this as justification.

  3. I new the basics, but 95% of the population new nothing until recent publicity about the match v England. But it is time to move on; the generation of today have no responsibility for the past.  As with World Wars' 1/2, and other conflicts, you don't forget, but you don't have to resurrect the past, either .

  4. About what?

  5. Well the English killed 14 innocent Irish men and the Irish are going to get their revenge by slaughtering 15 English!! -No hard feelings to all you English Peoples.. but be prepared -you're going down!!!

  6. Must admit i knew nothing about this place untill people started to post threads on here.

    I think politics should be left out of this sport,a simple minutes silent should do and then all these glory hunters can say they showed a little bit of respect and be on there way.

  7. I did`nt even know that Croke Park existed until about a couple of weeks ago. I`ve heard that there was a massacre there by auxilary police working for the British in 1920, in revenge for the massacre of 14 British agent earlier that day. A stand in the stadium has been named after the captain of one of the teams playing that day, because he was one of the dead, that day is now known as bloody sunday. Also one of the stands was built from the rubble of the post office on O`Connell street where there was a big fight a few years earlier. Since then the stadium has been almost exclusively used for Gaelic sports, until recently when Rugby Union has been played. HOW DID I DO? Oh and it was named after a bishop called Croke.

  8. WOW!

    Animosity and testoserone!   Gotta lead to an interesting game!  I'm goona have to eat a rare steak and shoot a pillow before the game or something.

    I need some fresh air.

  9. Virtually the whole of the country do not know anything about it, nor do they care. Isn't it about Bloody Sunday in 1920?

    How do I know that? I saw it in my paper this morning. It had one small paragraph, in a whole page preview of the game. Mention of this was 11 pages in, on the sports section.

    If the Irish want to mention or protest about it, fine. Trying to beat the Irish, after 4 defeats, is the only thing that matters to us here.

  10. More to the point, do you know who said "We may not be very good, but at least we turn up," at the post-match dinner in Dublin in 1973? When you find out, and realise the significance, you might be able to understand that some of us can use sport as a way of establishing bonds and friendship instead of fostering animosity about events that happened long before we were even born... oh, what's the point. Anyway, should be a great game, if the England tight-five take the ball out from under their shirts! Here's to a good craic, plenty of tries and even more beers.

  11. U2 sang Bloody Sunday and apparently that upset a lot of Irish people.

    Not one of their best song's but don't really see what all the fuss is about.

    Jees guys.

    It's a good game of rugby this weekend, don't ruin it with all this bolox

  12. prob f**k all!!! and do u think they might care, i dont think so!!! on that note up the cats!!! :-) its our stadium lol

    read this its funny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    British & Irish Governments Plan Ceremony in Croke Park

    Northern Ireland Minister Peter Hain has announced details of a joint

    ceremony before Irelands crunch game against England in Croke Park on

    the 24th February.

    The significance of the game is not lost on GAA followers and

    republicans who remember the infamous shooting of 14 players and

    supporters by the British Army on the 21st November 1921.

    However according to GAA spokesman Ulick Magee a plan being devised by

    the GAA and the Northern Ireland office, will attempt to draw a line

    under the incident.

    "We've spoken to the British government and they understand the

    significance of the event back in 1921. Back then 14 people were

    killed

    by British forces so in the spirit of the peace process and friendship

    we're proposing that we shoot 14 of their lot before the match. Then

    maybe have fireworks afterwards or something." Said Mr Magee.

    Government Reaction

    The plan has had a mixed reaction from Downing Street . Prime Minister

    Tony Blair thinks the idea has merit but said that it needs to be done

    properly and with dignity.

    "Frankly I think its a small price to pay for progression in

    Anglo-Irish

    affairs, but I think the idea of getting Ray Houghton to do the

    shooting

    would be too much for many English fans to take, particularly after

    his

    goal against us back in 1988. And he's Scottish which is worse."

    Proposed Victims

    According to informed sources, the GAA and Number 10 have already

    drawn

    up a list of names for those to be shot. The list, which is not yet

    agreed, is thought to be a compromise of people that both the Irish

    and

    English public dislike. Among the names are moaney-hole singer James

    Blunt, foul mouth idiot Jade Goody, Trinny & Suzannah, Man Utd donkey

    Rio Ferdinand, cream cake expert Vanessa Feltz, "comedian" Russell

    Brand

    and any of the blokes who do outside broadcasts for Sky News.

    But discussions took an ironic twist when both sides agreed on

    shooting

    Belfast singer Brian Kennedy, but neither side agreed on what

    nationality he was. GAA representatives claim he's British with their

    Foreign Office counterparts claiming he's Irish. The Irish claimed no

    Irishman should sing or dance in such a manner and the English saying

    he

    couldn't be a Brit because he had no tattoos on his forearm and didn't

    wear Ben Sherman shirts. However there was eventual consensus that he

    should be shot regardless of his nationality.

    Plans agreed

    The shooting will be carried out by members of the 2nd Infantry

    Battalion from Cathal Brugha Barracks in Dublin . The original idea to

    get the FCA to carry out the executions were dropped when they

    revealed

    that their rifles are in fact made of baked-plastercine and, in

    certain

    cases, jelly tots.  Similarly the Garda Emergency Response Unit was

    discounted for fear they'd shoot more innocent civilians and then

    claim

    overtime for it.

  13. They dont know anything about it but we'll get revenge for the fourteen irish deaths when o'driscoll and the lads kill 15 english fellas on the same spot

  14. Never heard of it.

  15. I believe its a sub-standard virtually all standing stadium that was built at the behest of the queen in 1963 so that gypsies could go there to watch traditional gypsy games and listen to tambourine music.

  16. Here we go, banging on about ancient history again.

    Equally, how much do the Irish know about the approximately 4500 innocent men, women, and child civilians killed by various republican terrorist actions carried out just in London since 1921 ?

    The fact is that those who are interested will know all about the Croke Park massacre, and  the history of the Irish Free State  is intrinsically part of British 20th century history, though clearly not a particularly glorious one. Those who are not interested, which is probably the vast majority, will not know about it and will care even less. Equally, I would imagine that beyond British involvement in Ireland, little is taught in depth about British history in the Irish school system..it is a foreign country, so why should you expect anyone to know much about it's history unless they have a genuine interest?  

    And by the way..since when did England become the sole representative of Britain? Its the British Army, not the "English"Army.  Will a similar fuss be made over the first visits to Croke Park of Wales and Scotland? Doubt it.

  17. It's Irish history that not many of the Irish know about, so it is raking up all the old bad blood again!

    As long as they win the match, do the Irish really care?

  18. It would be very interesting to see what you THINK you know

    but like most agitaters you hide behind a mask

    WASS

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