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How obsessed are Egyptians by the American dream?

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does American policy in the middle east affect how Egyptians think about Americans?

and are Egyptians mainly aginst jewsih or israeli people?

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  1. From my living in Egypt I find ourselves in a phase of cultural schizophrenia.

    yes there are a lot of Egyptians obsessed with American social way of life. And it is because of media stereotyped the people to the American concept of happiness (separate houses, golf courses, mega malls)… and people tried to imitate this way of life in a number of ways. By adopting foreign educational systems which has it is own pros and cons. But what upset me that students who graduate from them can’t even speak or write proper formal Arabic. And this is real shame. However their families feel proud of them. Also the new wave of residential compounds constructed by real state companies, these compounds just imitate American dream and are sold as luxury houses where the same settings would be sold in US or Europe as middle class housing which is supposed not to expensive.

    I met some foreigner academic who was puzzled by these compounds names (Greenland, trees land, green valley) where there is sand everywhere!!!

    However the effect of this obsession with American social way of life didn’t affect peoples believe in our political agenda we believe in for half a century now. But still some go further and adopt American Zionist political agenda and start to modify their perception of national rights and the concept of shared fate with other surrounding countries like Palestine and Sudan. And I find these people fascination with the American political agenda is an expression of political frustration and the in-ability to change things. So we change our perception motives and criteria to find fake false relief.

    Like wearing new glasses in order not to see the stains on our cloths and the dirt that caused them.

    The same kind of frustration is expressed in a number of other political directions, such as the religious direction, the secular left movements.

    I find all of this is a result of

    1- the failure to achieve our political agenda that was issued by 52.

    2-Also the miss-manipulation of our peace treatment with Israel for more than 30 years. Efforts exerted to recover from being in a state of war for about 15 years were very low.

    And this lead to political frustration and economic as well, as a result this was expressed by public multi-polar attitude.

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    to answer your second question: the reasonable answer to say that we are not against Jewish people we are against Zionism. But honestly how can i trust someone who view him self as a "chosen" one by God. and all others are serving him.

    Jewish people were living in Palestine before 48. and they issued this war against any thing called Arab. the denied them their rights to exist on the same land

    Zionism is based on discrimination

    so why to respect someone who doese neglect my rights?

    and now they say Israel is a state home for Jewish

    so what is the difference between being a Jewish or being a Zionist?

    They understand clearly that their existence is temporarily, they use high tech military technology to kill an old man on his wheel chair. and this claimed high-tech civilized military also was not able to recognize the blue color of the UN hanger, or the kids in Kana.

    these are behaviors of coward people.

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    @Zoser: good analysis and i have to comment: you hinted to another view of the picture, that american people themselves started to gave up on thier view of the american dream. and many now are throuwing their credit cards away and depend only on cash and savings.

    but believe me, it wont differ Obama from whatever. all these american leaders are leaded by different kinds of lobyists (Jewish, oil and car companies, and others) they are not leader with an agenda for the good of their own people, they just have to fit in a pre-set agenda. (watch his statements)

    and if he is going to do any good it wont ever be for us.


  2. in my point of view america is a idol for failure in every field,political,culture,economic.

    i don't hate Jewish people but i hate Israeli people

  3. "The American Dream is belief in the freedom that allows all citizens and residents of the United States to achieve their goals in life through hard work" That is what Wikipedia says about the American Dream, Now Egyptians hope to achieve that dream as said in the previous Quote, Through hard work

    Now to be bluntly Honest Most Egyptians aren't that much of Hard Workers, Well the current Egyptian anyway, Now in these days the American Dream is difficult if not Semi-Impossible to achieve like Zoser said The American is basically to have a nice life , Now Because of Economic, Racist and Stupidity issues make it diffcult to achieve it also American is meant for immigrants(Note: Lady Liberty)

    Now to answer your question to how much Egyptians want the American Dream, The willing to play lottery for Green Cards, Marry Foreign Women just for Visas(Seriously!?)

    Oh yeah, Like Dreams these days have an ethnicity, LOL

    I'm not mainly against Jewish or Israeli People, But I do not like it's Zionist Policies

  4. Not anymore

  5. Is it a dream? I think the Americans themselves now know it is a night mare,,lol

    first of all, I lived in USA for  four years, I think was a part of the  happiest time I had in my short life, till now I have my neighbor friends who are Jewish family, and who helped me as you can not imagine, enough to know when my Mom died , and the woman's son died (was younger than me) she told me that she was a mother without a son, and I was a son without a mother, and she took me as a son and she was like a mother to me,,,anyway, this was an introduction,,

    Now , the American dream was to be free, was to have a nice small house, nice car, nice family , and in general nice life,,lets see how '' the American dream'' is  now in America , and with the Americans:

    1) Thousands lost their homes in the last few years

    2) Millions  are bankrupted, and millions and millions can hardly put Gas in their cars

    3) Millions lost their jobs,

    4) America is the biggest creditor in the world

    5)The American economy is in  its worst

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/08/...

    6)  The normal Americans are hated/  (or at least irritate most of the world)  for no reasons than the act of their Republicans

    7) America : the so called freedom defender, puts lots of restrictions on their citizens, kidnaps  people and puts them in illegal jails in a foreign land,torture them. has lots of problems with half of the world

    strike innocent people either in ex Yugoslavia, Afghanistan or Iraq and before that they bombed civilians in three Japanese cities (is that morality even in wars?)

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapc...

    they bombed 90 civilians 60 of them are children ,in Afghanistan,, What is that??

    they rape Iraqi women in their camps

    http://arabic.cnn.com/2008/middle_east/8...

        (web page is in Arabic,,sorry)  what is that?

    I want just to throw up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    There is something terribly wrong, my dream has  turned to be a night mare, and I was the  one who looked up to them all my life, and hated  the communism and the Russians for them !!!

      I just dream to wake up from this dream (the night mare).. and believe again in  the justice of the new world,,Now, and I am sorry to say it, I support Russia from the bottom of my heart, just not to  support the USA,,, I have a big hope in Obama: the democrats proved always to be more human, I hope Obama and Joe, will  correct quickly the picture, and let us forget how evil proved the capitalism for its people and for us,,,and lets dream again...lol

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    Beautiful Mind: Although I am in the mail list of Mr. Obama, and Joe, I may be supporting them ,not to do good for us, but at least to remove who are doing bad to us,, let me explain this point, In my opinion the recent republicans did what they did, only pushed by high benefits to themselves (  they own themselves  oil companies, commodity companies,,,,etc,) I see them as a gang took control of a country , and not a normal country,, Now , the democrats proved always to be more Human,lets say better even for  their people not  us,, that will automatically reflect on us,, people are like animals, when they feel cornered, ,,,when people are relaxed, their manners are refined , they become a little civilized, and care for (poor people like us),, If the Americans themselves lead a relaxed life, they will not be like  hungry animals biting  everyone they  meet..

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    Now How can anyone who has a tiny brain be obsessed by a dream proved by and to its people (even, not to us the Egyptians) that  it is a night mare...lol

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