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How will ersatz israel be remembered?

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For non native English speakers; I will define the word "ersatz."

It means: a poor quality substitute.

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  1. with bloodshed....

    by the way, what does ersatz mean?


  2. The asker will be remembered as one who so hates the Jewish state that he cannot bear to call it by its name.

    The fact is known and will be remembered that Israel not only made the desert bloom, but repopulated a land that remained nearly empty for centuries, except for the small, but comparatively large, number of Jewish residents.  This is demonstrated by a seemingly unending string of quotes:

    "The area was underpopulated and remained economically stagnant until the arrival of the first Zionist pioneers in the 1880's, who came to rebuild the Jewish land.  The country had remained "The Holy Land" in the religious and historic consciousness of mankind, which associated it with the Bible and the history of the Jewish people.  Jewish development of the country also attracted large numbers of other immigrants - both Jewish and Arab.  The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts...  Houses were all of mud.  No windows were anywhere to be seen...  The plows used were of wood...  The yields were very poor...  The sanitary conditions in the village [Yabna] were horrible...  Schools did not exist...  The rate of infant mortality was very high...  The western part, toward the sea, was almost a desert...  The villages in this area were few and thinly populated.  Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants."

    - The report of the British Royal Commission, 1913 -

    The list of travelers and pilgrims throughout the 16th to the 19th centuries that give a similar description of the Holy Land is quite longer, including Alphonse de Lamartine, Sir George Gawler, Sir George Adam Smith, Siebald Rieter, priest Michael Nuad, Martin Kabatnik, Arnold Van Harff, Johann Tucker, Felix Fabri, Edward Robinson and others.  

    All of them found the land almost empty, except for Jewish communities in Jerusalem, Shechem (Nablus), Hevron (El Khalil), Haifa, Safed, Irsuf, Cesarea, Gaza, Ramlah, Acre, Sidon, Tzur, El Arish, and some towns in Galilee: Ein Zeitim, Pekiin, Biria, Kfar Alma, Kfar Hanania, Kfar Kana and Kfar Yassif.  

    Even Napoleon I Bonaparte, having seen the need that the Holy Land would be populated, had in mind to enable a mass return of Jews from Europe to settle in the country that he recognized as theirs' - evidently, he did not see any "Palestinians" claiming historical rights over the Holy Land, whose few inhabitants were mainly Jews.  

    Besides the above Christain sources, many Arab sources confirm the fact that the Holy Land was Jewish by population and culture in spite of the Diaspora:

    In the year 985, the Arab writer Muqaddasi complained that in Jerusalem the large majority of the population were Jewish, and said that "the mosque is empty of worshippers..." .  

    Ibn Khaldun, one of the most creditable Arab historians, wrote in the year 1377:

    "Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel extended over 1400 years...  It was the Jews who implanted the culture and customs of the permanent settlement."

    After 300 years of Arab rule in the Holy Land, Ibn Khaldun attested that Jewish culture and traditions were still dominant.  By that time there was still no evidence of "Palestinian" roots or culture .  

    The historian James Parker wrote: "During the first century after the Arab conquest [670-740], the caliph and governors of Syria and the [Holy] Land ruled entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects.  Apart from the Bedouin in the earliest days, the only Arabs west of the Jordan were the garrisons."

    Even though the Arabs ruled the Land from 640 to 1099, they never became the majority of the population.  Most of the inhabitants were Christians (Assyrian and Armenian) and Jews.

    If the historic documents, comments written by eyewitnesses and declarations by the most authoritative Arab scholars are still not enough, let us quote the most important source for Muslim Arabs:

    "And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land.  And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd'.."

    - Quran 17:104

    Any sincere Muslim must recognize the Land they call "Palestine" as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by Muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah's ultimate revelation.



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  3. it will be remembered as a powerful victor, who overthrew Islamic extremist terrorism, brought peace to the middle east, and spread democracy to a previously troubled region.

    BTW, STOP SAYING ERSATZ. ATA MESHUGA!! EIN LECHA MOACH! ISH TIPSHI! MA ATA OSEH PO KOL HAZMAN, EIN LECHA CHAYIM? (sorry cant say it in english, dont worry its not rude)

  4. Rather like apartheid South Africa only worse. It will be remembered as an idealistic social experiment that went hopelessly wrong and was permitted to continue far longer than it should have. The greater masses will remember it only as a brutal militaristic regime. Jewish historians will be writing about it a thousand years from now,all glory & guts,the stuff of heroic legend-making,rather like their take on historically confabulated kingdom of Solomon,which obviously never really existed except as a small band of ruthless mercenaries and robbers.

  5. A monument will be ersatzed stating: THE MUSLIM WORLD COULD NOT PENETRATE THIS AREA!

  6. As you say Yisrael will be remembered as an "ersatz" interloper brought into fruition by Deir Yassin amongst other dreadful atrocities by wicked bloodthirsty unconscionable terrorists who astonishingly later became Israeli politicians like Begin and Sharon and Dayan.

    Later kept alive , by the anti-American pro-Zionist lobby & jewish controlled media in the USA and Israeli spies and thieving scum like Robert Maxwell who constantly bit the hand of the American taxpayer.

    Eventually sinking beneath it's own corruption and foul behavior as evidenced by it's former rapist President, bribe taking Prime Ministers, white slave trade (as condemned by United Nations), mass pornography and the kicking of it's own old and  sick unemployed people in the teeth (nearly 2 million in abject poverty from 7 million Israelis despite all the trillion dollars of handouts from the USA taxpayer.

    I guess the world has had it's fill of this dog in a manger ersatz nation.

  7. The last gasp of the fascist state.

  8. It is remembered because you never let anyone forget it's existence.  

    Keep up the good work.

    Sincerely,

    Ms. Miche ; })

  9. What else but killing civilians, women and children?

    The land of atrocities,hatred and racism. This is what  is  Israel all about.

  10. Im hungry! ummm sushi!

    has any1 ate sushi in Greece! ummmm..

  11. ERETZ Yisrael (Israe) is here to stay; it does not have to be remembered!

    Your tone is, as always, very antisemitic and sarcastic.

    You do not see us (Jews and Israelis) posting hateful, sarcastic comments and questions in the Ramadan section; so why do you post your hateful drivel in the travel/Israel section?

    LIVE AND LET LIVE!

  12. As light unto the nations 10 people clinging to our garments and then we'll all be basking in G-d's Glory.  

    So hey that old motto applies:  If you can't beat them, you might as well join them.

    But first you have to learn how to spell.

  13. An evil entity. Jews will probably want to erase it's memory from history as an embarrassment. This has been their only opportunity to govern and the world is most negatively impressed,including most Americans,notwithstanding all the bought publicity that filled the mass media.

    What is this Ramadan section and why does this Kismet keep babbling about it? I'm not a Muslim and favoring democracy over fascism is ideological,nothing to do with religion.

  14. Israel has been known for 4000+  years, long before most  long gone empires.

    What is this ersats israel,  is it something you invented.

    Try the Words & Wordplay site.

    Even ♥MuslimRose♥Amira♥ knows not what you are saying.

  15. I think the asker has it wrong.

    Either he meant to say "Eretz Israel," meaning thge Land of Israel, or he thinks that the state is artificial (erzatz).

    In either case, he destroys his credibility.

    And so, Israel is and will be remembered as a land that had been desolate until the Jews started settling it.

    The vast majority of travelogues and historical accounts of the Middle East describe this area as barren -- that does not mean UN-populated -- it does mean UNDER populated.  Alexander Keith, recalling Volney’s 1785 description (see below) fifty years later, commented: “In his day [Volney’s], the land had not fully reached its last degree of desolation and depopulation.” (The Land of Israel).

    Other travelers and pilgrims recorded similar reports of the dreary state of the Land around the middle of the nineteenth century.  Here are just a few examples:

    Alphonse de Lamartine, in 1835: “…a complete eternal silence reigns in the town, on the highways, in the country … the tomb of a whole people” (Recollections of the East, Vol.  , p. 308).

    A contemporary German encyclopedia (Brockhaus, “Allegmeine deutsche Real- Encyklopaidie," Vol.  VIII, p.  206, Leipzig, 1827) calls Palestine “desolate and roamed through by Arab robber-bands.”

    In 1849, the American W.  F.  Lynch described the desertion of Palestinian villages “caused by the frequent forays of the wandering Bedouin” (Narrative of the United States Expedition to the River Jordan and the Dead Sea, p.  489).

    And again H.  B.  Tristram, in 1865: “… both in the north and south (of the Sharon plain), land is going out of cultivvation, and whole villages ar rapidly disappearing from the face of the earth.  Since the year 1838, no less than 20 villages have been thus erased from the map (by the Bedouin) and the stationary population extirpated” (p.  490).

    Mark Twain, ‘Innocents Abroad’ 1867:

    "Desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse … We reached Tabor safely … We never saw a human being on the whole route” (p.  451, 480); "There is not a solitary village throughout its (the Jezreel Valley’s) whole extent - not for thirty miles in either direction.  There are two or three small clusters of Bedouin tents but not a single permanent habitation.  One may ride ten miles, hereabouts, and not see ten human beings" (p.  448);  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœOf all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince.  The hills are barren … the valleys are unsightly deserts… It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land… Palestine is desolate and unlovely… Palestine is no more of this workday world.  It is sacred to poetry and tradition - it is dreamland” (pp.  564, 567).

    Referring to the same era, the Christian historian James Parkes writes in Whose Land?: “Peasant and Bedouin alike have contributed to the ruin of the countryside on which both depend for a livelihood… In spite of the immense fertility of the soil, it is probable that in the first half of the nineteenth century the population sank to the lowest level it had ever known in historic times.”

    In 1738, the land was described by the English archeologist Thomas Shaw as “lacking in people to till its fertile soil” (Travels and Observations Relating to Several Parts of Barbary and the Levant).  

    The French historian Conte Constantine Francois Volney writes:

    “The peasants are incessantly making inroads on each other’s lands, destroying their corn, durra, sesame and olive-trees, and carrying off their sheep, goats and camels.  The Turks, who are everywhere negligent in repressing similar disorders, are attentive to them here, since their authority is very precarious.  The Bedouin, whose camps occupy the level country, are continually at open hostility Alexander Keith, recalling Volney’s 1785 description (quoted above) fifty years later, commented: “In his day [Volney’s], the land had not fully reache its last degree of desolation and depopulation.” (The Land of Israel).

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  16. I expect you mean in the future,  who is going to be doing the remembering.  From my studies, I glean that all will worship God in Jerusalem.  It will be the capital of the world .  There will no longer be Muslims.  Pagans either.

    It will be remembered for being saved by the very word of God.

    It won't be remembered for the nuisance value of Hamas or Hexbo.  For the salvation and deliverance of the wrath and hate of the whole world.  (except America)

  17. With horror and revulsion.

  18. israel is here to stay,there is never going to be another country that will replace israel. many people who have been to israel have said that its been a great holiday and return often, like me.the weather is great people are very warm and friendly.

    the best place in the middle east is Israel.

    its the only true democratic country in the region, its the most advanced in technology Israel has a vibrant cultural life and a technologically and industrially advanced economy. In 2006, Israel was ranked 23rd out of 177 countries in the United Nations Human Development Index, the highest ranking in the Middle East and third highest in all of Asia.

    israel has great tourism, which benefits from the plethora of important historical sites for Judaism and Christianity and from Israel's warm climate and access to water resources. Tourism in Israel includes a rich variety of historical and religious sites in the Holy Land, as well as modern beach resorts, archaeological tourism, heritage tourism and ecotourism.

    israel has great tourist attractions which other countries in the middle east cant beat, like many great museaums Tel Aviv, Haifa, Herzliya, and Jerusalem have excellent art museums, and many towns and kibbutzim have smaller high-quality museums. The Israel Museum in Jerusalem houses the Dead Sea Scrolls along with an extensive collection of Jewish religious and folk art. The Museum of the Diaspora is located on the campus of Tel Aviv University. Israel has artist colonies in Safed, Jaffa, and Ein Hod, as well as three major repertory companies, the most famous being Habima Theater

    Israel has the highest school life expectancy in the Greater Middle East , It is ranked 22 out of 111 nations. Israel also has the highest literacy rate in the Middle East according to the UN.Israel has eight universities and several dozen colleges. According to Webometrics, of the top ten universities in the Middle East, seven out of ten are in Israel, including the top four. The Hebrew University of Jerusalem is the only university in the Middle East ranked in the Webometrics premier top 200 of the world. Israel is the only country in the Middle East ( Also, Israel, out of all countries in the Middle East has the highest number of Yale University alumni.

    i can go on and on why Israel is the best, you cant match it.

    please before posting questions do a spell check , it is eretz israel (land of israel)

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