Human chromosome 2: a blatant lie?

Question

How do evolutionists claim that human chromosome 2 is 'proven' to be the fusion of 2 ape chromosomes?

First of all: the molecular structure of the chromosome is different from the chimpanzees or other ape chromosomes. But the macro-structure appears similar when colored with certain chemicals. It's like looking at the sea from 10000 feet and saying "it's all the same". But when you get closer you see that the waves are unique for each portion of the sea surface.

Second of all: How would a mutant with 23 pairs of chromosomes reproduce in a population with 24 pairs of chromosomes and have fertile descendants?

So, why do evolutionists lie with such boldness?

If you have answers like: you don't understand science, you're an idiot, f*ck off, etc. please refrain from answering.

Answer 1

JP has made some very good points. It would seem from your question that you failed to commit yourself to really understanding the process, since apparently you are not familiar with the published work. As the quote goes 'a little learning is a dangerous thing' :  you have acquired a very superficial knowledge, and have fallen into the trap of believing you know the entire story.

Finally, if you want people to address you in a respectful manner it is not a good idea to call them 'blatant liars'. It suggests you follow a double standard

Answer 2

HUMAN MUTATION 28(2),99-130,2007

Understanding the Recent Evolution

of the Human Genome: Insights from

Human–Chimpanzee Genome Comparisons

Hildegard Kehrer-Sawatzki and David N. Cooper

This paper has all of the answers to your questions/criticisms. The actual peice by peice inversions, fusions, etc have been all determined. since the genetic sequence (gene by gene) is identical when you compare human chromosome 2 to the two chimp genes, there must have been a fusion of the two chromosomes. Any other model proposed is based on multiple events..such as..chimps lose a pair of chromosomes, then the individuals with the missing pair re-evolve the genes they lost in the exact same sequence they were in originally, all on the same chromosome...impossible.

As for the question on the 46 chromosome individual mating with the 48 chromosome individual...it happens. We all know of the tiger/lion and donkey/horse crosses that are sterile...but there are examples of species where idividuals have different numbers of chromosomes...in fact..one example in particular, the blue fox (Alupex lagopus) has individuals that sometimes have a fusion of two chromosomes....exactly the same as the chimp-human fusion and are able to reproduce fine. In fact, one paper showed that the survival rate for the offspring with this fusion was higher than those that had the 'typical' number of chromosomes.

Hope thsi helps clarify things a bit.

Answer 3

And I suppose the fact that redundant centromeres and telomeres are where they are expected to be if they had been fused means nothing to you, eh?

It's no where near as vague as "looking at the sea from 10,000 feet" at all.  It's very typical of someone who uses the word "evolutionist" to describe people who accept modern science to promote such blatant lies.