I'll rephrase to make it less controversial: which of these men is more likely to have his wallet stolen?

Question

1) a man who dresses in designers, flashes his cash, wears obviously expensive jewelery and watches and makes sure everyone gets a good look at them.

2) a man who dresses averagely, keeps his cash safely hidden, and doesn't walk around in expensive jewelery.

Is it repressive to suggest to men that they keep their valuables hidden to reduce their risk of having them stolen? does it infringe their "personality and expression"? Or it helpful, common sense advice?

My point >>> Whilst the fault is with the thief, there are things he can do to reduce his chance of having his wallet stolen.

Answer 1

Well, if it is such a sound and valid argument that the victim of a crime was somehow "asking for it" by means of their appearance, then why oh why isn't it used as a credible criminal defense?

Do you really think your enlightened idea that appearance attracts crime is something new? Hardly.

Thankfully however, judges would laugh you out of the courthouses if you brought that as a criminal defense.

It is NOT a valid defense BECAUSE it takes responsibility away from the criminal and places it with the victim.

BTW hun, it's been proven time and time again via various studies that appearance has absolutely nothing to do with rape.  If it were true that appearance entices a rapist, unattractive women would never be raped.  Fact is: they are.

I know it can be scary realizing that something you believe to be "common sense" is just a myth.  But believe me, your entire identity, person, and belief structure are not at risk of withering away before your eyes simply because you admit that some "common sense" while common, makes no sense at all.

Answer 2

well obviously the guy with the expensive stuff showing is going to be robbed first but that doesnt mean that the odds wont catch up to the middle class guy someday. So maybe the rich guy should be more careful, but if hes that rich than he probably knows how to manage his money wisely and has enough sence not to flash his money o strangers xD

Answer 3

its the same answer as women give about women being raped...according to them a man flashing his cash should have absolutely no bearing on wether hes mugged or not....after all women say the same about women who dress provocatively and rape....

so guess its not the guys fault either here in absolutely anyway

Answer 4

Someone who deserves it.

Answer 5

1 for sure. In fact...Javon Walker is a good example of how one man's completely legal yet shameless behaviour left himself the victim of a violent crime.

Answer 6

I think your analogy would be more accurate if men would be most likely to have their wallets stolen at home, by someone they know and perhaps trust.

EDIT: BTW, the correct answer to your question is: whichever one will seem more distracted and off-guard, and hence an easy target, to the thief. Which is similar to the criteria applied by stranger rapists.

Answer 7

I would say that the one who seems more distracted is the easier target.

Answer 8

The guy who dresses averagely actually.  

Answer 9

s*x is often a negotiation of power. When women are scantily dressed, they're asserting power. If they wield this power irresponsibly and around insecure men who feel powerless, they're putting themselves at risk. Yes, always the rapist's fault, but women can learn to make wiser choices. Feminism follows a stupid script that has only one myopic narrative and anything else is "sexist" and "victim-blaming." This is why feminism is intellectually weak.

Answer 10

I wouldn't begin to know which one because I don't behave like that.

Answer 11

Crime is inexcusable but it doesn't hurt to use a little common sense sometimes.

Answer 12

Nice try, cupcaque.   Rape is not a crime of desire, it's a crime of violence.  Is that so hard to understand?

Answer 13

About your last Detail: Rape is an act of violence; it's not motivated by sexual desire, but by the desire to terrorize and emotionally destroy the victim.

Thus, the whole "if you don't wear a burkha, you get raped" thinking is completely false. It's not s*x they're after. What a woman wears is irrelevant.

About the guy flashing money around, that's stupid, for a number of reasons.

Yes, I think it's wrong to try to control everyone's behavior down to the tiniest detail. SOME people believe in freedom!

Edited to add: I notice you don't compare the money-flasher with a man who stays home. So only WOMEN who want to avoid crime are supposed to never leave their homes, eh? Why is that?

BTW, rape happens in countries where women never leave home unless covered head-to-toe. They blame the women, too.

Answer 14

Hmm I suppose you're hinting at something much more serious...and if people understand the undercurrent they will reject the analogy. Its politically incorrect to blame the victim, especially in cases you are alluding to. I have to agree that it is difficult to blame the victim. Its the lack of restraint of the assailant that is the problem - especially if the hundreds of other people exposed to the same temptation can resist it.

Answer 15

How dare you suggest that the victim has ANY responsibility for the attack! The thief is a violent animal and would have assaulted anyone, regardless of type and accessibility and vulnerability.

What you're doing is a disservice to men everywhere, you're just making excuses for uncivilized behavior. Men should be allowed to dress however they want, walk wherever they want, and buy whatever they want without having to worry about becoming a target of crime. And shame on you for suggesting otherwise!

Answer 16

ok, so this is definitely a leading question. are you actually looking for an answer? it seems as if you merely want your opinion to be made known.

Answer 17

Tegan; I appreciate what you are trying to prove, but it will be lost here.