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I'm searching for a person banished for English nobility about late 1700's or early 1800's.?

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Her name was Harriet Welling or mabe wellington...It suposed that she was connected to the Duke of Wellington . It was told to me that she was removed from stature because of an affair or marrage with one of the gardeners by the name of Joseph Robinson. They migrated to Canada and lived just north of Wisconson at which time they gave birth to a daughter named Gertrude Robinson. It was said that at the time it was quite a scandal.I would like to put together the story if I could find the right channels to follow. At least some place to start asit is believed the story is a true one...

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  1. You should contact historians in Britain for this, and then you should go to the town where they migrated to.


  2. The Duke of Wellington's name was Arthur Wellesley, all of his family bore the name Wellesley. He was born in Dublin, Ireland, on 1 May 1769.

    He had two sons :

    Arthur Richard Wellesley, b. 3 Feb 1807, d. 13 Aug 1884 at Harley Street, Soho, London, England.

    He was baptised on 27 June 1808 at St. Patrick's Church, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland. He married Lady Elizabeth Hay, daughter of George Hay, 8th Marquess of Tweeddale and Lady Susan Montagu, on 18 April 1839 at St. George's Church, St. George Street, Hanover Square, London, England. They had no children.

    And Charles Wellesley, b. 16 Jan 1808, d. 9 Oct 1858

    Children of Major-General Lord Charles Wellesley and Augusta Sophia Anne Pierrepont

    Lady Victoria Alexandrina Wellesley+ d. 31 Jul 1933

    Lady Mary Angela Wellesley d. 26 Apr 1936

    Georgina Wellesley+ d. 3 Feb 1880

    Arthur Wellesley b. 5 May 1845, d. 7 Jul 1846

    Major Henry Wellesley, 3rd Duke of Wellington b. 5 Apr 1846, d. 8 Jun 1900

    Colonel Arthur Charles Wellesley, 4th Duke of Wellington+ b. 15 Mar 1849, d. 18 Jun 1934

    The Duke of Wellington's father was :

    Garret Wesley, 1st Earl of Mornington

    b. 19 Jul 1735 d. 22 May 1781.

    He was baptised on 10 August 1735 at St. Andrew's Church, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland. He married Hon. Anne Hill, daughter of Arthur Hill-Trevor, 1st Viscount of Dungannon and Anne Stafford, on 6 February 1759.

    Children of Garret Wesley, 1st Earl of Mornington and Hon. Anne Hill

    Lady Anne Wellesley+ d. 16 Dec 1844

    Richard Wellesley, 2nd Earl of Mornington+ b. 20 Jun 1760, d. 26 Sep 1842

    William Wellesley-Pole, 3rd Earl of Mornington+ b. 20 May 1763, d. 22 Feb 1845

    Field Marshal Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington+ b. 1 May 1769, d. 14 Sep 1852

    Hon. and Rev. Gerald Valerian Wellesley+ b. 7 Dec 1770, d. 24 Oct 1848

    Sir Henry Wellesley, 1st Baron Cowley of Wesley+ b. 20 Jan 1773, d. 27 Apr 18

    All born in Ireland.

    The Duke of Wellington's Grandfather was :

    Richard Wesley, 1st Baron of Mornington

    b. c 1690 d. 31 Jan 1758.

    Richard Wesley, 1st Baron of Mornington was born circa 1690. In Ireland. He was the son of Henry Colley and Mary Usher. He married Elizabeth Sale, daughter of John Sale, on 23 December 1719.

    Richard Wesley, 1st Baron of Mornington was baptised with the name of Richard Colley. He was also known as Richard Cowley. On 23 September 1728 he inherited the estates of Dangan and Mornington, County Meath, on the death of his cousin, Garret Wesley. On 15 November 1728 his name was legally changed to Richard Wesley.

    Children of Richard Wesley, 1st Baron of Mornington and Elizabeth Sale

    Hon. Elizabeth Wesley+ d. 10 Oct 1752

    Frances Wesley

    Garret Wesley, 1st Earl of Mornington+

    b. 19 Jul 1735, d. 22 May 1781

    I think perhaps the story, at least as far as the Duke of Wellington's family is concerned, is probably not true.

    You would need to know the exact name of the person in the story, neither Welling or Wellington are surnames directly connected to the Duke, but both are common English surnames, Welling being derived from the village of Welling in Kent, and Wellington from one of the towns called Wellington in the counties of Somerset, Hereford or Shropshire.

    Edit : It is not inconceivable that she was actually employed by a family, fell pregnant to a member of that family and was 'payed off' by being sent to the 'colonies' with some money and a suitable husband. Good luck in your Quest !

  3. I would strongly advise you to follow the advice of "GenevievesMom". It is the best answer.

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  4. Check out http://www.books.google.com

    Play with the search engine. This search yields several Harriet Wellingtons and Wisconsin. http://books.google.com/books?q=Harriet+...

    The "full view" books allow full free pdf downloads, as they are old and in the public domain. These are histories that must be verified in accordance with standard genealogic procedure, but you might find something that points you in the right direction.

    Happy hunting.

  5. There isn't enough information to help you answer your question. I am well-versed in Canadian research and the problem you have is that you don't have your dates narrowed down enough to find a record to work from. If you can help fill in the blanks, we can help you work through the existing records to see if there is a way to prove or disprove the story.

    Where/when was Gertrude born?

    Who did she marry? When/where did the marriage happen?

    Where/when did Harriet and Joseph live in Canada? Are we looking at Thunder Bay? Or were they further west in Manitoba? (Wisconsin doesn't border Canada, so were they actually north of MN or on the other side of Lake Superior?)

    Have you actually found any records with Harriet on them?

    Have you looked for any church records on Gertrude or Harriet?

    All we need a point to start from, then we know that when we're looking at records we have the right person that we're following. Ontario and Manitoba have different record keeping systems, so it's hard to compare records side-by-side without knowing enough about her. But if you have that point, it's likely we can point you in the right direction.

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