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I've seen websites that promote the idea of being able to run automobiles with some sort of device?

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that you can put together yourself that separates hydrogen molecules from the oxygen molecules in the water so that your engine can run on that either in addition to or as opposed to using gasoline.

Has anyone purchased the books that explain how to make this gadget, do you have information about it, has anyone tried it?

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  1. Yes, I got roped into it by a friend only to find out that it works pretty good on older cars with carburetors but the improvement with modern cars that have Electric Fuel Injection is minimal.

    It uses electricity from the battery and a magnetic coil to separate the H2 from the O on an on demand basis. As the demand is increased by faster speeds or higher loads the hydrogen production is increased and added to the airstream. The oxygen sensor and the computer need to altered on a FI car or the computer will tell the FI to send more fuel because the H2 will create a cleaner burn, tricking the computer.

    A 3% increase on a EFI car that gets 30 mpg is 0.09 mpg.

    A 10% increase on a carbureted car that gets 10 mpg is 1 mpg. Even a 30% increase over 10 mpg is just 3 mpg or a total of 13 mpg. Ok, I know, you carb'd car gets better mileage than mine so you are getting 15 mpg. A 10% improvement gives you  16.5 mpg. A 30% improvement gives you 19.5 mpg. The stock newer car with high technology gets 30 mpg and you did not have to build any electromagnetic thingamajigs.

    You tell me if is worth it.


  2. Whenever we have a pricing situation like this the con schemes come out of the woodwork.  Thats all I have to say about that.

  3. Well, the devices do indeed make small amounts of hydrogen and oxygen gas by electrolysis, but the breaking of that H-O bond requires more energy than you can get back by burning the stuff.  The energy comes from the electric current, which in turn comes from the car's alternator, which in turn comes from four-dollar-per-gallon gasoline, up through that big black belt that drives the alternator.  

    People generally drive more carefully when they're testing a gas-saving device, and that's what saves them gas.  The testing of that device in Detroit is rather suspicious.

  4. For the most part the people saving the most money with these schemes are the ones selling the plans and kits by getting people to buy them. A coworker and I are experimenting with "Browns Gas" and commercial compressed hydrogen using these air intake injection system schemes, and the most we have seen with compressed Hydrogen is a 3-4 MPG. increase. We hope that we can adjust the air/fuel mix somehow to compensate for the Hydrogen in the intake air.  This is the only way I can see that a large MPG. increase can happen. Right know I'm just as skeptical as I was when we started, maybe more. I don't recommend just anybody experiment with Hydrogen. We are both trained and experienced in the handling and storage of compressed Hydrogen.

  5. The various "gadgets" were purchased and tested on MythBusters. Most are hoaxes. Hydrogen CAN supplement your gas engine to provide slightly better performance and mileage, however, hydrogen does causes embrittlement in metals and can therefore damage your engine. Furthermore, a special injection system is needed as hydrogen/oxygen gas is a VERY volatile mix.

  6. it would be water burning you can get one for $1200 and it more than doubles your mileage. it was on the news here from Detroit. they tested an SUV that got 9 mpg and when they tested it after installing the container( they say is simple) it was getting something like 27 mpg.

    WAY CHEAPER and no fumes and no recharging Just distilled water and you can google that and find out how to distill your own :)

    Source

    Detroit 4 local news

    www.clickondetroit.com

  7. no idea

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