I am curious as to why so many people on GWS are feminism haters?

Question

And its not just men! It seems people from both sexes really despise feminism. I am really confused about why anyone would want to hate feminists. Isnt feminism, very simply put, about advocating equality for women and campaigning for women's rights and interests? What is so wrong about that? Interested in your thoughts...

Answer 1

That's a good question. Now ask the feminist why they tried to get my account deleted.

-Dannuele is back and still s**y!

Answer 2

Your argument would be correct if feminism is as you say.

I am not a hater of feminism, but I will reserve the right to criticise it's ulterior aims and motives, and have every right to stand up and fight it's excesses and hypocrisy when I see it.  If men can be held to account, especially those of us who are misogynist, then it is reasonable to hold yourselves to the same standard.

I think men are better at controlling the fools in our ranks than feminists are.  We at least admit their existence and most of us don't attempt to excuse them.

You seem, without really knowing you, to see feminism through rose tinted glasses, and I say you should celebrate the things about your movement that are good, but also be careful of the things that happen that are bad.

As crouching Doggie and Ryde on say, disagreement with feminismis often confused with hatred of women.  That is a false assumption.

Answer 3

Modern feminism is not about equal rights.  The modern feminist movement was set going by Betty Friedan with her book The Feminine Mystique, in which she said that married women needed to get out to work because by staying at home they were ruining everybody's lives including their own.  The whole thrust of modern feminism is towards insisting that all women must be career women, and that looking after children is of no value.  I do not believe this to be true, which is why I dislike feminism.  Equal rights are not at the heart of the movement.

Answer 4

I hate injustice, it does not matter what face it appears as.

Answer 5

Because it is cut off and secular almost like a religion; it's just another label for people to put you into. I care about womens rights, I care about mens rights, children, race etc.

The problem is it has just become another means to and end. I wish people could stop putting labels in front of their name like canned humans and care about the plight of all humanity. We 'the people' aren't the ones we should be fighting; I don't understand the hosility. I just want people to enjoy the short time they have here together, because that's all we have in the end.  

Answer 6

I beg to differ with other answerers but feminism is not an outdated belief.   I am not sure the behavior on here equates to hatred of feminism, some of it seems to be hatred of the female.   Sometimes its funny that they turn on some of the females who assert that they are anti- feminists.   They see the female avatar and go for it.

Answer 7

Women have had equal rights long ago. What these people demand are equal results-- and WHAT IF that never happens even while keeping rights/opportunities equaled? Just ask yourself this and you'll see where their intentions lie-- " What if women never recieved 'equal' results comparative to men?". Would the feminists just accept it? Would they rest knowing that all rights and opportunities were as equal as anyone could hope they would be, and simply accept the results and move on?

   Or would they keep pressing and keep searching and keep plodding regardless?

Answer 8

Hate is such a strong word.....  

I  disagree with the fact that women have more protection at the expense of men.   I object to any unfair practices that put the concerns of one s*x  above the other, to the idea of passing sexist laws and I object to the notion that a hateful, sexist ideology such as feminism has any place in the modernized Western world.  

Equality for women has not only been advocated, it has been reached and even surpassed.  It has now become a movement of oppression, reverse sexism, and revenge.

Answer 9

The theory of feminism (the dictionary description: equality) is a good and honorable idea but feminism in practice is totally sexist. Therein lies the answer to you misunderstanding.

Feminism *claims* to be in favor of "equality" but they are not.

There are many examples but one in particular is that of the so-called "wage gap". The fact remains that women choose softer, safer and cleaner jobs which also pay less combined with fewer hours than men which leads to their earning less. When numbers are compared, it appears that women are underpaid but when the actual jobs are compared, they are not.

Another along the same line is that feminists like to point out that the majority of politicians are male and try to insinuate that the cause is sexism. The fact is, more women vote than men so women, as a rule, are selecting the male politicians, who more often than not are biased in favor of women, which is how they come to get elected to begin with.

Simply put, the definition of feminism does not match the reality. The reality is simply unpalatable to most so most at least dislike feminism.  

Answer 10

Does disagreement with a philosophy equal hate ?

Answer 11

One reason is that in general feminists are intolerant to criticism of feminism e.g. my questions and accounts keep getting deleted.

Another is that feminism is not about gender equality, but special rights for women and discrimination against men (see Sections 1, 2, and 4 here

http://www.freewebs.com/feminism-evaluat...

Answer 12

I don't hate it, it did wonderful things for me.  I am allowed to do many things I never would have even thought to be able to do before.  However I feel it is outdated, as is the term and definition itself.  There are now many rights men lack that need to be supported as well.

Answer 13

Feminism has done some great things.  However, much of that has been lost today by the mainstream feminist movement.  Also, most feminists I've met are hypocritical in one way or another.  They'll criticize men all the time, but criticizing women is considered sexist.  They'll ask for all kinds of equal rights, but don't want equal responsibility.  Other things they do are hypocritical as well.

I think the "let's oppress men now" philosophy isn't very common, but is more common than people who call themselves feminists want to admit to.  

I'm a strong supporter of feminism as a belief, that women should have equal rights to men (and vice versa if you have to say it that way).  However, feminism as a movement (maybe we should start capitalizing it when it's used that way to differentiate) has gone overboard.

Answer 14

Feminism, like liberalism, is a magnet for people who have nothing better to do than cling to obsolete beliefs.  These people feel threatened by giving power to anyone but the same old white boys who think they've been in charge all these millenia.  We know full well that they haven't, however.

Answer 15

Because conservative mental midgets like Rush Limbaugh have done a very good job convincing people who aren't really into thinking for themselves that feminism is about hating men or female superiority.

Yes, there have been a few extremist nut-jobs who called themselves feminists who didn't do the movement any favors, however, most intelligent people are able to understand that the fringe does not represent the majority.

And hating feminism is a really great cover for hating women. If you say, "I hate women!" most people will call  you prejudiced. If you say "I hate feminists!" then you'll garner more sympathy.

Which is why many supposed anti-feminists here vocally loathe behavior that has nothing to do with feminism: gold-digging, alimony cheating, materialism, etc.

Answer 16

Depends upon the definition of feminism. Pro-female in the sense of "women are as capable as men in job roles and a great many societal roles" - this is something that only the under-developed neanderthals of humanity would still want to disagree with.

Unfortunately nowatimes, many advocates of feminisim have put a new androphobic slant on feminism and have given the term "feminism" a connotation of "now it's time to put men under the thumb, and turn the tables- get 'em all back, and belittle them." This, of course, isn't feminism, and is actually proactive androphobia-- but is still titled as "feminism" by some... for obvious reasons, people will react against this degrading and villifying form of anti-social behavior, which is actually a rationalization of pent-up female rage.

Answer 17

Oh, it's because modern Feminism is an utterly hateful philosophy (if one studies it thoroughly).  I fear this philosophy because it's preoccupied with the hatred of men and those who disagree with its intention to gradually hurt men and eventually eradicate men.  There's really nothing else to say.  It's impossible to support a philosophy that espouses hatred so thoroughly, but doesn't even let its followers in on the very notion that it's all about hatred.  And until it's researched thoroughly, modern Feminists will use any rhetoric to defend this egregious threat to society.  The most horrific thing is that this cult-like ideology brainwashes unwitting "followers" into believing that it's in the interest of advancing women's rights.  This is a falsehood.  Its primary purpose is to perpetuate misandry.  Please, understand that I've researched this rigorously.  Please, don't buy into the notion that it's somehow benign.  It's not.  It's a purely hate-driven philosophy.

Most importantly, please don't confound fear of modern Feminism with "hatred of women."  The two are mutually exclusive in every capacity.

Thank you for your understanding.

Answer 18

I should have read this question before I asked mine. I'm trying to figure out the same thing, the only thing I can come up with is there are a lot of people still out there that can't stand to think that women deserve the same respect and rights as men. What the heck is that from? Upbringing? I think Tracey's answer is well put, and the number of thumbs up/thumbs down on her answer is a demonstration of the point of your question. I think maybe if we stop taking woman haters seriously (as if they are thinking with logical or objective minds) then it won't be so taxing to deal with them.