I am doing a genealogy tree for my family. Need other Jarvis & Kim's. Anyone have a Jarvis or Dae Bok Kim?

Question

My great grandfather was James David Jarvis Sr. He died in Houston, I don't know when. His dad may have been Howard Gray Jarvis, not sure about the gray, and James Sr. had 4 children. One of the girls was named Lola, and my grandfather was James Jr. I need info on James Sr and his father, as I am stuck there. My husband's side goes back to the 1500's, so anyone looking for Dean, Simpson, Mantooth, whisler, Langley, Wilcoxson, Holt, Stidham, or Parker in the Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona states can contact me to see if we match. I am also looking for, sadly, My korean side of Kim. Dae Bok kim, my grandfather, died in 1968 area in Korea. His second wife, my grandmother, name was Chu young Choi. Both names are like Smith in Korea. Any help would be appreciated.

Answer 1

Is 'Kim' the family name?  or 'Dae'?  'Chu'? or 'Choi'?

Answer 2

I have info about the Jarvis name. It works into my research in the 1600s in Kent co, Maryland.  But.. the worst thing I could do, is spend months, assuming that we must have a "match", and all we have to do is find it.  

Here's why.. I find a James Jarvis, who died in Houston in June 1971 on the social security death index.  He was born in 1907.  I also find a Howard Jarvis who was born in 1910, and died in 1984 in Harris co.  When I look in the census, there are many Howard Jarvis. One of them that I looked at, was born in Calif, but his father was born in Canada in the 1800s.   Right off the bat.. the Howard who was born in 1910, cannot be the father to the James born in 1907.  The Howard with family from Canada is not going to be connected to my Jarvis in Maryland.  

There is a critical point to what I am telling you.  There are MANY James Jarvis, and many Howard Jarvis.. and no way to be certain which one is your family, based on your current info. What is needed for your problem is solid info about your gr grandfather, or even maybe your grandfather, if he is dead.  It might be your grandfather who was born in 1907 and died in 1971.

You need other documentation about James Jarvis.. this might be from his obituary, his death certificate, his wife's name.  Any of these, or all, are necessary to be sure of the RIGHT James Jarvis, as well as an indication of the right dates, and where he was born.  The death certificate will also include names of his parents.. again.. to prove who they were, as well as perhaps help tell me where Howard was, when James was born. Perhaps they lived in another state and moved to Texas when James was young.  Finding the documentation is based on having the exact dates/ info.  I find a Lola Jarvis, born 1914, who was in El Paso, in 1930. Could this be the sister? If James was born after 1930, he would not appear in that census, but it might be the right family.

You have to "solidify" your more recent information, in order to match it to earlier records. That may mean you have to have more specific info about James Jr to build on.

Even if someone has the same surname in their history... it will not mean that you are connected.  The necessity is to work with the individual persons, and locate their exact facts

The same idea is true for the rest of the names. To find Grandma will mean finding her dates/places, which will zoom in on any available record sources in Korea.  

My email is open.. you are welcome to send me a note, if you like.  Once you have the correct date(s) for gr grandpa, then it should be easy to locate Howard.. if Howard is the right father.

Answer 3

I found some clues, but you'll have to wade through some advice first.

Consider this:

IF (big IF) you are now 16 and the result of a long line of teen-aged lovers:

You were born 16 years ago, in 1992;

Your father was born 16 years before that, in 1976;

Your grandfather was born 16 years before that, in 1960;

Your great grandfather was born 16 years before that, in 1944.

IF (Another big IF) you are now 80 and the result of a long line of men who had a child by their second wives when they were 60:

You were born 80 years ago, in 1928;

Your father was born 60 years before that, in 1868;

Your grandfather was born 60 years before that, in 1808;

Your great grandfather was born 60 years before that, in 1748.

The Great-Grandfather born in 1944 could have been a 26-year old soldier in Viet Nam in 1970. When he got home he might have gone to a disco in a powder-blue double-knit polyester leisure suit.

The Great-Grandfather born in 1748 could have been a 28-year old soldier serving under George Washington in the American Revolution in 1776. When he got home, he might have danced a reel at a barn dance, in a pair of silk knee breeches and shoes with silver buckles.

Both examples are extreme, both are physically possible, both show why a birth year or even a birth decade help more than the phrase "my (great) grandfather".

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http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.c...

has 14 men named James Jarvis who died in Texas. Some don't fit, some may.

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bi...

has 11 James Jarvis d. Tx, again, some don't fit.

I can't find a Lola Jarvis with father James in any census save 1880, and they are in Kentucky. Lola was b. 1873.

http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/tx/d...

has some possibilities. Houston is in Harris County. The form asks the county, not the city. The one who died in 1971 looks really possible. His obituary would be an obvious next step.

If you upload a GEDCOM to RWWC, you might make connections on your husband's side. The chance of a Mantooth (or any other surname) researcher looking here is small.