I am looking for information on a birth certificate for Mamie Tidwell born in 1913r?

Question

I am looking for information on a birth certificate for Mamie Tidwell born in 1913r?

Answer 1

As others have said, there may not be a birth certificate. If the family was religious, try to locate the church they attened for Baptism and Communion records. Check the local school district for the records they have available. People in her generation were allowed to use school records to prove their age to the Social Security Administration.

Answer 2

Good luck alot of states may not have mandatory birth certificates back that far, I know in NC my grandparents did not have one for 1907 . Go to courthouse in the town their were born and you may have to start with children they may have had.

Answer 3

www.ancestry.com--1920 United States Federal Census

(Is this the right Mamie???)

Name: Mamie Tidwell

Home in 1920: Sans Bois, Haskell, Oklahoma

Age: 6 years  

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914

Birthplace: Oklahoma

Relation to Head of House: Daughter  

Father's Name: Geo E

Father's Birth Place: Texas  

Mother's Name: Jessie

Mother's Birth Place: Texas  

Marital Status: Single  

Race: White

s*x: Female

Able to read: No  

Able to Write: No  

Image: 499  

Household Members: Name Age

Geo E Tidwell --31  

Jessie Tidwell --30  

Lenard Tidwell --8  

Mamie Tidwell --6  

Truly Tidwell --2  

Orene Tidwell --11/12 (11 mon)

Mamie's parents:

George E. TIDWELL

Birth: 5 APR 1889 in Granbury, Hood County, Texas

Death: 1 DEC 1975 in Ft. Smith, Sebastian County, Arkansas

         Married: 1 MAR 1908 in Mansfield, Sebastian County, Arkansas to:

Jessie M. MATHEWS

Birth: 2 JAN 1888 in Dennison, Texas

Death: 15 SEP 1969 in Spiro, LeFlore County, Oklahoma

   Their Children

Living TIDWELL

Leonard TIDWELL b: 1912 in Arkansas

Living TIDWELL

Greeley TIDWELL b: 1918 in Oklahoma

Living TIDWELL

Living TIDWELL

Living TIDWELL

(One of those listed as Living, I assume, is Mamie)

(NOTES: George--1900 Choctaw Nation Census Vol. 12, ED 87, Sheet 30, Line 21 .Buried in New Hope Cemetery next to his wife, Jessie M. Mathers Tidwell, and her mother, Amanda Yandell. The Certificate of Marriage between George Tidwell and Jessie Mathews states that he is age 20, she is 18 at the time of their marriage. S. L. Menandes signed the certificate of marriage as a Minister of the Gospel.

Death Certificate states cause of death as carcinoma of the pancreas.)

Mamie's paternal GRANDPARENTS (& notes):

Jacob Ellsberry TIDWELL (aka Berry Tidwell)

Birth: 12 JUL 1851/1853 in Arkansas  

Death: 05 JUL 1944 in Spiro, LeFore Co., Oklahoma

       Married: 1st--Married: 28 AUG 1873 in Johnson County, Texas  to:

Nancy E. WISE (divorced)

Birth: 5 JUL 1857 in Missouri

Death: 26 JUN 1878 in Johnson County, Texas

        Children

1. Minerva TIDWELL-- b: 1874 in Johnson County, Texas

2. Hattie TIDWELL-- b: MAY 1875 in Johnson County, Texas

3. Mary E. TIDWELL-- b: 1878

      

       Married 2nd:  7 NOV 1878 in Hood County, Texas to

Mary Elizabeth SUE (divorced--she "was not kind to his children by his first wife, Nancy").

Birth: WFT Est. 1838-1862

Death: WFT Est. 1884-1933

        Children

1. Ida TIDWELL-- b: 1879

2.Lula TIDWELL-- b: 31 AUG 1882 in Hood County, Texas

           Marriage 3 Jamima Ann Elizabeth BAKER, ABT. 1884 ( Ending Status: Divorce ):

Jamima Ann Elizabeth BAKER

Birth: 27 JUN 1858 in Missouri

Death: 21 SEP 1939 in Spiro, LeFlore Co., Oklahoma

Fact 1: 1900 Choctaw Nation Census, ED 87, Sheet 30, Line 21 ;Fact 2: Indian

  (NOTES--Jacob: Jamamia Baker was Jacob Asberry Tidwell's third wife. He had three children, all girls, by his first wife who died. The children were Minerva Tidwell, Stacy Tidwell, and Hattie Tidwell.

He divorced the second wife, who he claimed mistreated his daughters. Then he married Jamima Baker. Berry Tidwell and Jamima Baker lived together before they got married

          Jacob & Jamima's Children

William Thomas TIDWELL b: 24 JUL 1885 in Indian Territory Oklahoma

George E. TIDWELL b: 5 APR 1889 in Granbury, Hood County, Texas (Mamie's father)

Bettie Ethel TIDWELL b: 3 MAR 1891 in Booneville, Logan County, Arkansas

Melvin E. TIDWELL b: DEC 1898 in Indian Territory, LeFlore County, Oklahoma



Mamie's paternal GREAT-GRANDPARENTS:

William TIDWELL

Birth: 1817 in Arkansas

Death:AFT 1880   in Johnson County, Texas

          Married: ABT. 1835  to

Catherine AKEN

Birth: 1815 in Illinois

Death: ABT. 1879 in Johnson County, Texas

       Children

Fannie TIDWELL b: 15 NOV 1837 in Arkansas

Tabitha TIDWELL b: 1838 in Arkansas

Mariah TIDWELL b: 1839 in Arkansas

Lucinda TIDWELL b: 1845 in Arkansas

Hiram Harper TIDWELL b: JUL 1847 in Arkansas

William David TIDWELL b: 9 JUL 1847 in Arkansas

Levi J. TIDWELL b: 1850 in Arkansas

Jacob Ellsberry TIDWELL b: JUL 1853 in Arkansas

(NOTES--Jessie: Jessie Tidwell was an Assembly of God preacher and preached in congregations in and around Spiro, Oklahoma.

Jessie did not believe in going to storm cellars when the tornadoes came ripping through Oklahoma. Vera recalls the day a really bad storm was coming, and the oldest son of George and Jessie Tidwell, Leonard, begged his mother to go to the storm cellar. George was not home at the time. Of course, she refused, saying that going to the storm cellar was "runnin from the Lord." After it was over, Leonard was dead, and the rest of the family that was at home that fatal day were injured. After that, Jessie would take her children to the storm cellar!

Jessie Tidwell did not believe in going to doctors either. That was not trusting in the Lord. She sat and prayed over her sick child, Greeley, as he died with a fever, refusing to get a doctor for him.

From the Fentress Mortuary Report of Death states she died from cardiac arrest.)

Mamie's maternal GRANDPARENTS:

John MATHEWS

Birth: WFT Est. 1840-1869

Death: WFT Est. 1890-1932

        Married: WFT Est. 1882-1914 to:

Amanda UNKNOWN

Birth: 22 JAN 1869

Death: 15 OCT 1945 in Spiro, LeFlore County, OK

      Children

Jessie M. MATHEWS b: 2 JAN 1888 in Dennison, Texas

Mamie's paternal 2nd GREAT-GRANDPARENTS:

Hiram TIDWELL-- b: ABT 1796 ; d.not stated

          Married: 06 JUN 1814 in Gallatin Co., Illinois to

Frances SPARKS b: 1796; d. not stated (her Father: Absalom SPARKS b: ABT 1771 in Rowan Co., North Carolina &Mother: Lydia ELSBERRY b: ABT 1774)

        Children with Hiram:

William TIDWELL b: 1817 in Arkansas

Wesley TIDWELL b: 1822 in Arkansas

Answer 4

Try your local library and ask if they can assist you. They keep old records and newspaper clippings, and articles. Another place to ask is your town hall where you get a copy of your birth certificate you need to find the right desk. Someone will help you if you just ask. They may ask for your I.D. but if you tell them why you want the information they may or may not give out that information. Things like this are private and confidential so you might run into some issues. good luck though.