I honestly believe that Gore&Co. should surrender their Nobel prizes! Your opinion?

Question

A spokesman for Al Gore issued a questionable response to the news that in October 2007 the High Court in London had identified nine “errors” in his movie An Inconvenient Truth. The judge had stated that, if the UK Government had not agreed to send to every secondary school in England a corrected guidance note making clear the mainstream scientific position on these nine “errors”, he would have made a finding that the Government’s distribution of the film and the first draft of the guidance note earlier in 2007 to all English secondary schools had been an unlawful contravention of an Act of Parliament prohibiting the political indoctrination of children.

The judge concentrated only on nine (of the total of 35) points which even the UK Government, to which Gore is a climate-change advisor, had to admit did not represent mainstream scientific opinion.

............the Court had not had time to consider more than these few errors. Check out the link http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html

Answer 1

If Gore had any class he would have never accepted that award in the first place.

Answer 2

For decades, environmentalism has been the Left's best excuse for increasing government control over our actions in ways both large and small. It's for Mother Earth! It's for the children! It's for the whales!

But until now, the doomsday-scenario environmental scares they've trumped up haven't been large enough to give the sinister prize they want most of all: total control of American politics, economic activity, and even individual behavior.

With global warming, however, greenhouse gasbags can argue that auto emissions in Ohio threaten people in Paris, and that only global government can tackle such problems.

National sovereignty? Democracy?

Forget it: global warming has now brought the Left closer to global government, statism, and the eradication of individual rights than it has ever been before.

Answer 3

Your statement sounds like sour grapes, but you are entitled to your opinion.  No one will take your opinion seriously because you are not a highly respected scientist.  The only opinions that really matter are those of other Nobel prize winners.  If other Nobel prize winners thought that Gore's award was egregious, they could return their awards in protest and the awards committee would take note.  None of the other Nobel prize winners have come forward.  Could that mean that Nobel prize winners don't see any substantive errors in Gore's work?  If you want your opinion to matter, become a highly respected scientist and win a Nobel prize yourself.  Your individual chances would be better if you join a broad collaborative research effort like the IPCC.

Answer 4

He should return it in my opinion.  But the fact that he even got it should serve as a reminder to everyone that nobody's above making serious mistakes.  Nobel's biggest blunder was awarding it to him.

Answer 5

You think the thousands of climate scientists who contributed to the IPCC report (which is who I assume you refer to when you say "&Co.") should surrender their Nobel Prizes because there were a few minor errors in Gore's film, which they had nothing to do with?

My opinion is that this is a ridiculous suggestion.

And for the record, most of the so-called "errors" pointed out by Monckton (the brilliant physicist...sorry, I mean journalist) in that right-wing think tank link are not errors at all.  I'm not going to waste my time correcting them, but if you spend a few seconds investigating each, it's obvious that the errors are made by Monckton, not Gore.

Answer 6

No. The premise of this question is false.

The Court decision found IN FAVOR OF THE FILM.  This has been totally "spun" by extremist right wing websites, like the one cited in the question..

Someone sued to prevent the film from being shown.  He LOST.

The decision found that the main points of the movie: global warming is real, mostly caused by us, a serious problem, and capable of being solved by us, WERE ALL PROVEN SCIENTIFIC FACT.

He found nine relatively minor points (like snow on Kilimanjaro) to be unproven, not false.

Don't accept this nonsense, READ THE DECISION YOURSELF.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admi...

[        (1)  global average temperatures have been rising significantly over the past half century and are likely to continue to rise ("climate change");

        (2) climate change is mainly attributable to man-made emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide ("greenhouse gases");

        (3) climate change will, if unchecked, have significant adverse effects on the world and its populations; and

        (4) there are measures which individuals and governments can take which will help to reduce climate change or mitigate its effects."

These propositions, Mr Chamberlain submits (and I accept), are supported by a vast quantity of research published in peer-reviewed journals worldwide and by the great majority of the world's climate scientists.]

THE BOTTOM LINE:

[It is clear that the Defendant understandably formed the view that AIT was an outstanding film, and that schools should be enabled to show it to pupils. ]

Sheesh.  I thought this had been widely debunked long before now.

Answer 7

I'm sure that Gore will give up his prize when Bush admits that Gore actually won the 2000 election.

Your question is idiotic, Gore won for making the public aware of global warming as an issue, which he did.  He did not win for science, so trying to split hairs over what was presented in the film is silly.  Some things he didn't make clear, some points he leaned toward more extreme views, but he got way more right than he got wrong and he has spent many years bringing the issue to the public forefront.

By the way, some of what Monckton says is factually incorrect too, what should we do with him?

Answer 8

Amen.  

He won it over a Catholic nun who was tortured by the n***s for smuggling Jewish children out of death camps.

Abomination is giving them too much credit!  This is why the morality of Europe is completely, utterly bankrupt.

Answer 9

Good let them all suffer through The Planet Earth BBC Snoozerama. Isn't that what this is all about anyway? Securing the genre for the BBC?( Immitation being the most sincere form of flattery.) What did they have to say about De Caprio's The Eleventh Hour, or should we wait a couple of years for those findings as well? WANKERS!

Answer 10

This is old news.  Water under the bridge.  Class dismissed.  

Gore was a co-recipient of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize and that's just the way it is. In my opinion the work stands and the core arguments are valid and generally accepted as such.  Stop quibbling about a few inaccuracies and a ruling made quite some while ago and move on.  There are pressing issues at hand, remember?

Answer 11

Well I feel that if Hayek was alive to know about Gores prize he would return his in some kind of insulting way. Gore and his admirers here are exactly the kind of people that Hayek, Sinclair and Mencken warned us about. But it seems all the muck rakers are gone and all we have are the muck makers of the left to bury us in the stuff.  

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” –H.L. Mencken

Answer 12

I have to agree completely.

The really sad part is that he should never been awarded a prize in the first place!

It may have deserved some nomination in the Oscars, or something , but I don't think they have a 'Best Bullshit' category.

It is extremely sad that so many people, who may have not already been misguided in their beliefs, have either been swayed, or are now considering a complete myth to be fact simply because they do not understand any basic science.

It also is sad that a few of the 'Top Contributors' in this category who claim to be scientists and yet seem to have little knowledge of what proper science is, or completely ignore science in favour of finding some pages on the internet which support their beliefs.

This has turned into the largest money-making scam of all time and people are willing to go along with it.

The internet can be a valuable reference tool, it can also be a source of lies and deceit.

You can find anything on the internet to support your 'belief', that does not make it true however.

Answer 13

The very idea that Gore received a prize from the same organization that honored Friedman and Hayek is an abomination.

Answer 14

Why?  They were properly bought and paid for...they should be allowed to keep them.