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I just saw a movie trailer for "10,000 B.C." and it had mastadons and a city with a stone temple?

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I think they are a few thousand years off on that stone city thing right? I told my wife I thought earliest civilizations with major cities were around 6000 B.C

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  1. Please do not confuse Hollywood with reality.  If Hollywood were true, then we would still be driving cattle across the plains while Star Wars (or Star Trek) goes on above us.  And there would be volcanoes bursting out all across the world - brought about because asteroids keep crashing in the earth.  

    In the movies anything is possible.  Did you see Godzilla roaming New York City? (Was it NYC or did they do LA this time).  

    Do not count on Hollywood to bring you reality.  I would think that the Kevin Costner movie "JFK" would prove that.

    Take Hollywood with a big grain of salt.  BIG REALLY BIG  HUGE even.  They are entertaining.  Real???  No  Entertaining??  Yes.


  2. They probably aren't wrong with the stone temple. There's a mounting body of evidence to show that humans were building stone monuments and temples during the ice age, as they are starting to find submerged temples off the coast of Japan and around India, that were only only dry land 10,000 years ago plus. the sea level has risen by about 130m, we've no idea what's lurking in the depths.

    The oldest on land settlement is Catal Huyuk in Turkey, 9,500 years old. But there's an underwater city in the Bay of Cambay, off Gujarat, that's been recently dated to over 10,000 years old, at least. It was probably one of the Indus Valley civilizations cities.

    http://www.s8int.com/water27.html

    http://members.toast.net/rjspina/Japan's...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structures_...

  3. Most agree mammoths went extinct 10,000 years ago. Then there's those on Wragnel Island.

    During the last ice age, sea levels were as much as 400 lower then today. Asia and North America were connected by the Bering Land Bridge, also known as Beringia. This was the route through which man entered the Americas.

    When the ice age ended Beringia was again flooded. What were the hills became islands and on a few, mammoth were trapped. There, they became dwarfed, but survived the extinction of their mainland relatives.Radio carbon dating has their  "numerous teeth of dwarf mammoth dated 7,000–4,000 yr BP"

    That would place them as dying out at between 5,000 and 2,000 BCE.

    Egypt's Old Kingdom  is commonly set between  2755 and 2255 BCE. There's a Indian city that's been dated to 7500 BCE. The cities of Mesopotamia are dated to about 3000 BCE.

    There's an apparent overlap of several centuries when human cities and mammoth co-existed. There are, however, two problems; first Wragnel Island in in the Siberian Arctic (Latitude: 71° 15' 0 N, Longitude: 179° 40' 0 W) a fair distance from Egypt ( Latitude 27º 00´ N, Longitude 30º 00´E)   It's doubtful any Egyptian, Mesopotamian or Indian ever saw them. The other issue is that by living on an island they had shrunk and were only 4-6 feet tall at the shoulder. That's not very big.

    As for "10,000 B.C" I suggest you suspend belief and enjoy the computer graphics.

  4. The movie trailer showed huge stone buildings and pyramids. It also had a reptile-man. I would assume it's in the realm of total fantasy.

  5. The earliest built structure ever found was a granary from 9500 BCE in the Jordan Valley.  The second oldest granary was from 6000 BCE.  8th millenium is the earliest seen stone walls/towers built in cities.  But entire cities of stone would not be built until later, perhaps at the very earliest 6000 BCE.  That's as much information as I could get for the time being... hope I helped!

  6. As stated above, some of those mastodons and mammoths hung around until as late as 4000 years ago, even if they were pygmies.

    The ancient city of Jericho is potentially 11,000 years old, so there's possible significant overlap, although it's pretty unlikely.

  7. Yes, it is only fiction.  Mastodons dies out in the Old World about 3MYA, and in the New World at about 11KYA. (1, 2)

    The earliest known civilizations date back to about 5KYA. (3)

    If you substitute Wooly Mammoth, those went extinct at the same time that Mastodons did.

    wl

  8. did you also notice that they had bows and arrows too? hollywood isnt very historically accurate

  9. At this period, a massive flood covered vast areas of the globe under meters of water. A lot of coastal areas disapeared and along them possibly some early cities. They are some works that have showned a city made of stone in Turkey that was possibly as old as 32000 years. But of course, human cultures were not spread enough at that period to allow its existance to have transpired and then spread. Many cities are thought to have appeared and disapeared one after another, and structural canibalism has eliminated a lot of evidences. Therefore most ancient cities have always their lots of anomalies, but since those are not enough to validate such theory (by the academics), they are most of the time discounted...

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