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I love informed and focused people. Considering the fact that alcohol etc. aren't classified one of the?

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top killers in the world, and don't contain both an addictive drug and ingredients that are carcinogenic from the "get go", what can be done about tobacco products. I was not asking about all products that have potential harm. One specific product. Tobacco. It is a major killer. It has been allowed to continue to that venue by our government all in the name of money. There are alternatives to tobacco crops that will work and feed the hungry. I am asking. What is the kind, gentle, considerate way to rid this country and any others that wish to solve a huge problem, to nip this c**p in the "leaf"? Come on people. Think. Are there really any smokers that are informed completely that would still chose to smoke if they had all the information? I would like to chat with them if they exist. Or is it really that tobacco product users are misinformed and unable to quit because of the addictive quality and cost of stopping? Quit defending a wrong. Solve 1 problem at at time or?

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  1. Well they keep raising taxes on it, maybe that will slow down the smoking.  They also have banned it here in Texas, in some city, from restaraunts and public places.


  2. so smokers are morons and dont know that there are dozens of carcogens in cigarettes? They know. It doesnt matter how informed they are. It's an addiction, and many many people dont want to quit.

  3. Tobacco is not as addictive as many people believe it to be. Non addictive tobacco is capable of being produced containing less harmful chemicals and with less habit forming (addictive) qualities. The tobacco industry has been deliberately poisoning the entire smoking population of the world for the past 70 years or more, with toxic additives in tobacco products, all in the name of the allmighty dollar. It is my hope and wish that ALL cigarrette company executives die a slow, horrible, cancer sticken death along with their entire families and the those responsible for allowing it to happen, within our state and federal governments.

  4. I believe revenue is one of the major reasons that it is such a governmental issue. But as well the addictive end is very real, imagine the major chaos that would be if the government took all the cigs. from all the smokers, some people get very emotionally distraught, some people sever mood swings, irritability, sleeplessness, all these things swirled into alot of people means tempers are gonna flare, people are gonna make rash decisions.....etc. etc.  it has the potential to become very ugly, and then there is the problem of the Black market and illegal cigs.  And Alcohol kills the Innocent, and the drunk one usually lives.

  5. First take another look at your supposition that Alcohol is not considered one of the top killers in the world.  Do a bit of research I think you will find it near the top.  When you consider the deaths to which it is not attributred, it probably becomes number 1.  A drunk falls down the stairs...cause of death falling, a guy gets liquored up gets mad and shoots his neighbor, cause of death murder.etc

    Now a quick look at the 18th and 21st amendments to the Constitution, commonly referred to as prohibition.  It was intended to address a problem, widespread alcohol dependence.  It created a whole new class of criminals.  It helped create more business for organized crime.  Finally we got smart and repealed Prohibition with the 21st amendment.

    Prohibition of Tobacco would do the same.  Note that it was trial lawyers not the government that finally held the tobacco companies to account for their work making their product more addictive.  All that tobacco settlement money going to the states is the result of the tobacco companies realizing that fighting the case in court after the evidence unearthed in the discovery process was a losing proposition!!

    As far as any debate concerning second hand smoke.  This is real simple.  Do you cough when you are exposed to smoke?  That is your body telling you something!  I may not be a great debater, but gee wiz common  sense is common sense!!

  6. In my oppinion Live and let live , I don't tell people how run there lives don't tell me how to run mine. If drugs where legal there would be empty prisons. The goverment makes money off of crimminals. If I want to smoke that should be my right. If I get ill from it then I should be held responsable not the company that made it. That was my choise. Freedom is disapearing fast because of holding someone else responable for anothers action. Self indused illnesses should not be covered by medical bennefits.Then it wouldn't cost the people.

  7. Tabacco and Alcohol make lots of money for the American government. No worries. Let those that drink and smoke pay the taxes.

  8. I have only one question and then I will answer.  Why do you think that it is your business to decide for others if they should be able to hurt their own health?

    People enjoy smoking tobacco, so they will continue to smoke and as long as they do there will be profit in growing and selling tobacco.  

    And yes I know all about the harm that tobacco causes and still smoke cigarettes.  

    I admire your wish to do good for others; however I question your moral right to do so against others will and wants,

  9. Ma'am I am completely informed and I will likely continue to smoke until I'm dead.

    You have stated that you do not care about other dangerous substances, so you will not care that all the wheat that gets in the food supply is probably killing me faster than the cigarettes are.  Again, since its all about money and no one will get rid of or accurately regulate this wheat, I cannot even so much as take a *^%#@# aspirin without expecting to be violently ill for three days.  

    Do you have any idea how cigarettes can make living with Celiac Disease manageable without forcing the entire society to conform to my minority demands?

    Please, find some compassion in your soul and stop trying to put people people in jail over a leaf in the name of making the world a better place.  You may say that you do not intend to put people in jail, but your plan can only result in that because people will break any law you write.  Freedom still means something to some people.

    Hey Col B ... organic cigarettes?  Cool compromise!! lol

  10. Quick note:  tobacco itself is not where most of the carcinogens are located, so the "leaf" is not the problem.  The carcinogens that affect smokers come from the finished product -- the cigarette, cigar, etc.  

    Most smokers alive now were fully aware of the negative effects of smoking before they started, yet they still chose to smoke and many choose to continue smoking.  That is their choice to make, unless or until we make cigarettes illegal, after which many will still smoke (black market will thrive here like it does elsewhere).  

    The big problem for our society now is how to prevent "innocent" non-smokers from being exposed to second-hand smoke which MAY cause health problems.  That has still not been completely proved, although most research is supporting the argument and I believe the majority of people accept it as fact.  Regulating where smoking is allowed is obviously a reaction to second-hand smoke dangers.  One of the biggest questions on this issue is how far to regulate for second-hand smoke.  Recently an apartment complex has been sued for prohibiting cigarette smoking within the apartments, and this will be decided in the courts.

  11. I quit smoking 5 yrs ago, but if you want a real solution to carcinogens then why only tobacco it doesn't kill or disable half of the people that eat red meat or sit in rush hour traffic what about cola's and saturated fat or television?  

    Tobacco is bad it stinks I can't stand to be around smokers but to get up on that soap box and talk about cigarettes killing people is like hanging a sign around your neck saying follow me I'm P.C. don't look at the real picture just the one I want you to see.....you can chant it if you like

  12. okay you hate tobacco i got that from your rant but i have not figured out the question here.

    is it:

    should the government continue to subsidize tobacco production? no

    should we do more to inform smokers of the health risk?

    no,  people who smoke know the risk they just don't care about them

    is it hard to quit smoking? yes

    still not sure about what wrong that is being defended or what problem you are wanting to solve first

    after you get done with tobacco please put forth the same effort with alcohol

  13. unfortunately, I know all of the information, yet would rather---at this point---have the cig!! No one currently thinks drugs, alcohol, cigs are 'good' for you.........most of us know the problems and solutions, we just would rather quit or not quit on our own terms. If you turn it into some sort of DARE program, well, we children of the 80's all know how that program turned out.......but hey, I got a free t-shirt!!

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