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I wonder; I am a nursery teacher and sometimes there I meet children who?

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seem to be completely unaffected by you telling them off and/or giving them a time-out...I wonder if those children get spanked at home, and that´s why they don´t respond...

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  1. The most likely problem is not that they get spanked at home, its lack thereof.   A have two sisters, one spanks her children and the other one doesn't.  The one who doesn't spank her children has children from h**l.  They know you are not going to do anything about them acting crazy, so they do not care!!  If they fear that they will get spanked for bad behavior, they will not do it anymore.  The one who spanks her children has children that are VERY well behaved.  They know that their bad behavior will not be tolerated.


  2. Time-out needs to be carried out firmly and consistently across situations (ie., timed, no negotiations, pre-warnings given).

    Also, the environment needs to be appropriate (i.e. free of stimulation).

    And what is done after time-out? Were arrangements made to ensure that the same misbehaviour is not repeated? Also, was the child positively-reinforced (through praises) when he/she does something well and behave well, so that he/she realises that he/she gets attention through appropriate behaviour, and not inappropriate behaviour?

  3. I really have a problem with generalizations of this kind. Please don't assume the worst about these parents. Consider that kids have different temperaments.

    By the way, if you are telling kids off, I really wish that you'd consider a less stressful career.

  4. The spanking argument will never be resolved here, but just consider this: It is considered "acceptable" for parents to spank their children. The same way it was considered "acceptable" 30 or 40 years ago for a husband to give his wife a slap now and then, only when she deserved it of course. I wonder how spanking will be viewed, 30 or 40 years from now ?

  5. Well if you were my kids' nursery teacher and you told them off, my kids would be picked up right now and would never return. You need to have patience in your line of work. If you give them consistent disipline...such as a time-out...they will get used to having a time-out when they do things wrong. For instance maybe at home they never get in trouble...and now you are telling them that they are in trouble for wrong-doing. They don't understand. Once you establish boundaries then they understand and will know what you expect out of them.

    Example: I have a nephew that runs his house. He eats in every room of the house (he's three years old) and he does literally whatever he wants as long as it isn't something he can get hurt with, a knife, sissors etc.

    When he comes to my house he knows the rules...he only eats in the high chair. He doesn't watch movies all day. There is a limit on TV. He only drinks out of a sippy cup and when done with it it goes in the refrigerator. There are consequences for doing wrong. From a time-out to not getting to go outside. I have established boundaries with him and he knows what to expect from me. It is harder when his parents are around. They have seen him with me and he didn't know that they were around and they were very very very surprised!

    All kids can behave with the right disipline. Kids will always test to see how far they can go with you!

    Hope that this helps you with all the kids in your nursery class.

  6. Telling them off? Okay......

    Anyway, children do not all respond to the same 'punishment'  especially at that age they are extremely slef-centered, so it is very difficult for them to see anyone elses perspective.

    Eventually they will get it.  Positive reinforcement is a good way to discipline.

    All time outs do at that age is give them a break from a situation so they can be redirected.

  7. maybe you should try positive reinforcement such as telling these children the good things they do if they are constantly told how bad they are they arent going to respond to you

  8. I don't even know where to begin with a response. No and I think you should be looking into a new career. Most children are unaffected by time-out because of how it is done ( you should not be telling off a child so I am not going to address that)

  9. I also teach preschool and some children respond the way they do to get more attention from you try ignoring the childs bad behavior unless they are dangering their self or someone else.

  10. very possibly.  my best friend's son gets spanked b/c time outs and talking to him firmly never worked.  he'd walk away from you or laugh at you if you tried to get forceful with him.

    the only thing he EVER responded to was spanking.

    so, it's very possible they get spanked at home.

  11. Depending on the age of the child this is apporiate. People seem to forget children are not articulate. They have allot of pressure and are forced to do things they just don't want to do or are not ready for. Time out is used all to often and then it becomes useless. Two year olds don't know how to share and think everything is theirs. They don't have words yet so what do they do? Bite each other. There are other factors at work however that is the main cause.

    Threes like to hit becuase they get mad and need to learn how to calm down and think about the problem and how to solve it.

    Fours are better because it they are in a good center by this age they will have been taught all these skills.

    School age children join cliques. They are verbally mean. Some are cool and well some are __________ they need to be taught how to be fair and work out problems without getting the teacher involved. They are the best at tattleing.

    Then you have the children that are in foster care or protective custody. These children have already seen things that would make your hair curl. Punishing these children is the worst thing you can do. As educators we need to be aware of a childs home life and have children use their words. Time out should only be used when a child is upset and needs to calm down. Redirection works best. It gives the child a voice and a choice to make good decisions. At the same time they have lessons that will last a life time.

  12. it can be any number of the things that other's have said.  However just like adults, some children are just more resilient than others.  It may be because of culture, experiences, individual temperament, parenting styles etc.  more likely a combo. of the things.

  13. No - it probably means that is the language they hear at home and it does not phase them. Sometimes a different approach is needed with these kids - not too soft an approach because then they will think that they can get away with anything. So be careful - tread lightly.

  14. spanking is bad.... tell rules at first of day... first infraction is a warning, reminder of the rule.

    second infraction... reminder of rule... tell that you will be put in time out if you do that again.

    3rd time.... takje to time out, explaining that th erule was broken.

    before you let them up, have them tell you the rule in their own words

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