ID: Why should intelligent design be taught in public school!?

Question

If your logical or political basis to teach ID in public school is on grounds of "freedom of speech" or "to credit the alternative" then you shouldn't have problem with evolution being taught in churches?

Answer 1

Intelligent Design? Where is the Intelligent Designer? He has some debugging, technical issues he needs to work out.

Why would they want to learn about some designer who made a bunch of mistakes? Or a designer who can't take criticism? I doubt he'd be much use to education.

Well, other than the "we all make mistakes" teachings.

Answer 2

I do not think a brief discussion of other theories of origins, or the limits of knowledge is at all inapropriate.  I think it is a mistake to assume that being silent on religious issues is truly a way of not establishing beliefs about the supernatural and God.  I think all views should be discussed in some forum, or we are unintentionally endorsing the one's that are taught.

I do not have a problem with evolutoin by the way, I am just sorry this issue is so polarized.

Answer 3

Because of the fear that some intelligent designer out there is more powerful than the government. Now that would p**s them off.  

Answer 4

I can say why it shouldn't.  Because it's bulls**t pseudoscience.  The only exception I can see is showing the students the PBS documentary on the Dover trial so they can all see how dishonest the ID movement is.

Answer 5

I don't think you have teach both sides of the argument if one side is obviously dogmatic BS that no one can prove.  Intelligent design is just creationism with a smarter sounding name.  I could see it being part of a philosophy, religion or literature class, but it doesn't belong in science.  If we're going to teach ID and evolution side by side, we should teach biological reproduction next to the stork theory.

Answer 6

on the fair premises that ID actually had the longevity to prove and remain a proven cause on scientific standards, then I believe it would have been taught on the bases of equality, as a person of science we like to look at both sides before choosing one, and in some cases when things cant be proven, we teach both or choose the most logical choice, ID will never be taught, Evolution is proven on the concept of observation, we cant see things evolve right in front of us by an organic standard, but we can see galaxies evolve right now, and from past pictures, we also know of many species that have evolved by recorded observation and even the human evolution has been recorded, anyone want an appendix? ^_^

Answer 7

The problem you're refering to here is a common one, all over the world. Churches won't teach evolution because they believe it is not what actually occurred. MANY (nowhere near all) scientists do not want to teach intelligent design or creationism because they do not believe that this actually happened either.

The difficulty - most schools where there is argument about what is to be taught are run by the GOVERNMENT. Governments are under pressure from many groups in society to teach what the groups believe are valid and important.

In Australia - where I live - Evolution is taught in high school Science courses and in senior Biology courses. It is taught as a THEORY regarding how life came to be the way it is in the present. Evidence for the theory is presented in a clear and logical manner. There has been no educational move, as yet, directing teachers to teach either intelligent design or creationism. If a community approaches a public school and wishes to offer religious instruction, the school is obliged to allow time for community members to come in and run their own lessons. Mostly, these instructors tend to focus on the story of Jesus and the Christian teachings - rather than where we came from.

Contributing to this problem is that most of the "research" that disagrees with the theory of evolution has been published in independent and non secular (church based) journals. None of the mainstream scientific journals publish research that refutes evolution - due to errors in methodologies and the frequent claims made by some researchers that well-accepted techniques for identifying the ages of rocks, fossils and remains of living things are inaccurate.

Science teaching is based on teaching the factual body of knowledge that Science is. The only way to get evolution out of schools is to get it out of science.

People are free to employ scientific researchers to debunk evolution. Maybe all of the rich christians (camels and the eye of a needle) should pool their money and resources, employ mainstream and respected scientists with the hope of proving the evidence for evolution incorrect - the works would certainly be published and evolution could then be taught as a theory that was wrong - as is currently done with outdated models of atomic structure.

Until:

* all of the evidence for the theory of evolution is shown to be false; AND

* mainstream and irrefutable evidence for creationism or intelligent design can be demonstrated;

evolution should remain as the theory of "how we came to be" that is taught in science courses.

Answer 8

Maybe in literature, history, or religion classes, but definitely not in science classes.

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Answer 9

It shouldn't be.

Answer 10

bring ID up in front of a peer group of scientists and if it withstands their test they would be happy to teach it in schools, just like how all science is

this is how all science is allowed in schools not in courtrooms and school boards

Answer 11

The only plausible reason to teach ID in a public school would be if said public school resided within the boundaries of a theocracy.

Answer 12

It shouldn't be, as it would be taught as science -- which it isn't.  Since ID has no predictable consequences of any sort, the idea is useless.

Answer 13

In the past in the US only Creationism was allowed to be taught. Then evolution was allowed along side Creationism. Now only the theory of evolution is allowed. Times have changed. But we were founded as a Christian nation.

Answer 14

It shouldn't be.  ID doesn't have a theory, it doesn't have any evidence.  It's main goal seems to be picking holes in evolution.  Which it usually gets wrong.

As far as I can tell ID is supported by pathological liars

Answer 15

ID is a useful tool for people to integrate religion and science.

It is NOT science. It cannot be tested, measured, or otherwise proven or disproven.

It is NOT a theory in the scientific sense.

All ID is good for is allowing people to use god to explain science.

Answer 16

well yes but if that teacher has agreed not to teach evoloution and informed of this then it should not be a problem especcially because of the churches belief about creationism.

Answer 17

Intelligent design can be taught in school, that's completely fine. However, if it is, it should be taught only as part of a comprehensive curriculum in which students are required to learn about all the world's religions from a secular perspective.

It should NOT be taught in science class under any circumstances, as it is not science. Unless, of course, actual scientific evidence proving its validity is discovered and thoroughly tested.

Answer 18

Or alchemy in chemistry class

Answer 19

"then you shouldn't have problem with evolution being taught in churches"

I don't think people like that are really up on LogicReason.

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Answer 20

Your avatar is funny