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IF 2012 is the end , whats the point of trying anymore?

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but then i had anoher theory. since there is so much evidence pointing to and end on this exact date maybe this is the end of hate war destruction and power. maybe its just a turning point...

see im the class of 2012, so its kinda strange ya konw

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  1. Nothing is for certain and boy we can only hope for other theory1 Man that would be great.


  2. LOL just have a **** it attitude.....so **** it

  3. its not the end it just  a  turning point... the  polls will aline and it i believe is going to cause a lot of natural disasters i think this is the start  of the end  

  4. I'm not sure why you feel that 2012 is the end.  As far as I know, there's no really pressing reason to believe this.  However, assuming there is a reason to think that 2012 is the end, then here's some 'points' in continuing to try.

    a) 2012 is a about 4 years away (I don't know what the exact date is, but generally the end of the world is predicted to be sometime in December - I don't know why).  Four years is a lot of time in which to do stuff - the length of a university degree, long enough to reach Mars using current technology (including at least a year to build the spaceship), long enough to get a good start on a family.  Wouldn't want to waste all of that.

    b) Kind of as an addendum to a), what's your view on the afterlife?  If you don't believe in such things, then the next 4 years are all you've got, and you'd best use them in the best way possible.  If you do believe in the afterlife, then I suspect that one of the things we're going to do there is tell stories about what we did while alive - which is a good reason to start making sure you've got really good stories to tell.  I'm sorry, but "Yeah, I realized the world was going to end back in 2008, so I pretty much did nothing" is a lousy story.  Better to say "I realized that the world was going to end back in 2008, so I worked to make people happy, I went sky diving and I explored the frontiers of science.  I was the one who solved the puzzle of cancer, and I won the Nobel Peace prize."  You gotta admit that the second one is better.

    c) I believe it was Martin Luther who, when asked what he would do if he knew that the world would end tomorrow, said "I'd plant a tree."  That sounds like a good way to live.

    d) Let's face it, you might be wrong.  St. Paul thought that the end of the world would occur during his lifetime - that was about 2000 years ago.  Same goes for a variety of people of all faiths and cultures throughout time.  Sure, chances are that at some point, someone is going to be correct, and it might be you.  But on the other hand, you'll feel awful if you gave up now and turn out to be wrong.

    So yeah, I don't know if that gives some ideas.  It's not exactly a complete list, but it's heading in the right direction.

    If you're right, I'll see you in 2012.  And if you're telling stories of how you did nothing from 2008 till 2012, I will be sure to mock you.  How's that for a reason to try?

  5. What evidence? The only so called "evidence" is ancient civilization beliefs which have been proven wrong too many times. The same thing has happened before like in the year 1000 and 2000 this aint nothing new so just take it easy.

  6. Because it's not the end. The Bible says we won't know when the end is. If everyone is saying 2012 is the end, then it won't be.  

  7. There is no proof of the 2012 Mayan Calendar pop-culture blitz having any validity to it.  Don't forget that there have been many other predictions that have not come true.  So we don't know.  And because of that, we have to work and fight every day to do better so there will be no end.  

  8. No one can predict the end of the world, that's just something that could happen at any moment and might even be before 2012. Don't you remember the 6,6,2006 prediction?  

  9. Its not going to be the end but even if it was, its still a good idea to keep trying.  Run your race until you finish.

    We're all going to die sometime so if we follow your implied thinking there's no point in even starting.

  10. well they could be wrong they have been before

  11. Well we have had dates of destruction before but nothing happened on those dates, chances are the same would happen on this particular date as well

  12. Yes, i'm sure what you said: it'll be just a turning point, remember, nothing wrong will occur, no destruction, only a change and no more than a great and harmless change.

  13. The year 2012 is rumored to be the end of the world.  But do not worry.  Do not be scared. It is a false rumor.  I assure you that the world will not end on 2012 December 21 but it will end one day.  Remember that if there is a beginning, there is an end.  

    Let me share with you some things about Nostradamus and the Mayan Calendar.  I also would like to share with you what certainly will happen very soon as told to us by the Holy Spirit.  After this certain event happened, there will be a spiritual awakening of people and earth’s inhabitants will experience peace for a long time.

    Nostradamus and the book of Revelation

    Nostradamus’ prophecy of when the world will end is far into the future, past about AD 3700.  This is in agreement with what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit—that there will only be about 144,000 around AD 2200, peace reigns for a thousand years while the Devil, or Satan, is chained up and locked up in the abyss till around AD 3200 (Revelation 20:1-7), and then Satan will be let loose from his prison to deceive the descendants of the elect for about 500 years (Revelation 20:7-10).  After that, the end will come (Revelation 21:1).

    Mayan calendar

    The Mayan’s Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by Jose Arguelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 2012 December 21 (Wikipedia).  Mainstream Mayan scholars consider “cataclysm” or “apocalypse” as a misinterpretation for to the Mayan scribes, it literally means uncovering or revealing.

    The Long Count has 360 days in a year called “Tun”.  A “Tun” has 18 months or “unials” and each “unial” has 20 days.  Twenty (20) Tuns is a Katun and 20 Katuns is a Baktun (144,000 days or about 400 solar years).  Thirteen (13) Baktuns is a “Great Cycle” of 1,872,000 days (5,200 Tuns or about 5,125 solar years).  The Great Cycle in the proleptic Gregorian calendar started on 3114 BC August 11 (day 0.0.0.0.0) and ends on 2012 December 21 (day 13.0.0.0.0) – winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.  The Great Cycle restarts the next day (day 0.0.0.0.0).  The representation of the Great Cycle of the Mayan Long Count calendar is as follows: (13 Baktuns.20 Katuns.20 Tuns.18 Uinals.20 days).

    A thousand years of peace

    In Revelation 20:2-7 of the Holy Bible, it tells us about a period of a thousand years of peace. Has this occurred already since the time of Jesus?  Not yet. That will still come. Those that give predictions of the world’s end, such as 2012 and numerous times during the past, are pseudo-preachers. Have they talked to God directly? If so, give proofs.

    Inevitable physical death

    But there is something that will certainly happen—and that is our physical death. This is what we should prepare for. It may come when least expected. We do not know the day and the hour. It will come like a thief in the night. So we just have to be prepared all the time. Search for the true God and when we find Him, follow His commandments and remain in Him until our last dying breath.

    Survival kit – faith in the true God

    This is all that we have to do. It is faith in the true God that we can take with us when we depart from this world. If we denied Him, He will deny us also before the Father in Heaven and send us to h**l. This is very scary – to live in h**l forever.  If we knew Him and loved Him and followed His commandments, then He may reward us to live with Him eternally in His kingdom in Heaven. This is the survival kit that we should have.

    2012 is 20 + 12 = 32, age of Jesus when crucified

    Did you know that in his/her boredom, “Thanks for reading this” theorized in Yahoo Answers, Religion & Spirituality section, that 2012 could be 20 + 12 = 32, the approximate age of Jesus when He was crucified and died?  I answered that he/she is correct in his/her theory.  When Jesus died, He was actually 32 solar years old, equivalent to 33 lunar years.  This is found in the results of a study that I did to check if what the Holy Spirit said regarding the crucifixion of Jesus on August 17 is correct or not.  Details are in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader88...  Is this a sign that God is warning us of the impending calamity around 2012, like the end of the Mayan’s calendar cycle?  But I repeat, 2012 is not the end of the world yet.

    The 144,000 marked good people

    The Holy Spirit also told us that beings from another planet will take only the marked good people out of this world.  I asked Him if it’s a million.  He said much less than that.  Then I asked if the number is the one mentioned in Revelation and He affirmed it.  A few weeks ago this year, 2008, as I was reading Revelation, I came across Revelation 14:3 to wit (King James Version):  Ã¢Â€ÂœAnd they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.”  Ã¢Â€ÂœRedeemed from the earth” means saved from the earth.  And there were 144,000 of them.  This must be what the Holy Spirit was referring to several years ago.  

    Advice of the Holy Spirit

    His advice to all: leave their wicked way of life and change their way of thinking.  We should come back to the true God before it’s too late.  (I read in Isaiah 55:7 this message, to wit (KJV): “Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”)  Be good then so that we may be considered to be among the 144,000 who will be saved, and later will restart and repopulate this world.  The Holy Spirit told us to tell people about this prophecy even though they accuse us as being out of our minds, crazy or lunatics.  He assured us that this will happen, similar to Noah’s prophecy of the Great Flood which took a hundred years before it was fulfilled.  The ark was the vessel used to save Noah and his family and the animals.  This time, another kind of vessel will be used to save the elect.

      

    World War III to start at Spratly Islands

    What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war.  This “calamitous war” (as Nostradamus called it) will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular.  The Spratly Islands lie on the southeast part of the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines.  The Holy Spirit told us that the Philippines is the wick of a gas lamp.  Once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow.  He told us about this prophecy about two decades ago.  He said that the troubles in the Philippines will spread to the whole world until mankind is almost annihilated and a few will remain.  Spratly Islands are being claimed wholly by China, Taiwan and Vietnam; and partly by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.  The area is considered a tinderbox, a flash point.  It is very rich in oil and gas resources, estimated to be more than the reserve of Kuwait.  The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

    Certainty of WW III

    Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen.  These are Nostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tui Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled) found at http://www.alexchiu.com/philosophy/super... and Wikipedia, Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us.  If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

    Spiritual awakening after the war

    After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time in this world.  The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available.  People will be living in planned cities and communities.  Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

    Come back to the true God now

    The Holy Spirit has given His prophecies and these are what will happen.  Be rest assured then that the world will not end yet.  But please, heed what He advises us to do—to change our wicked way of life and change our wrong beliefs.  Come back to the true God now before it’s too late.  There a lot of lessons to study.

    The decision to believe rests upon you

    I am just sharing with you what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit.  The decision to believe Him or not depends upon yourself.  I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I share.  It is not my responsibility to save you or anyone, but the person’s.  He is the engineer of the house that he is building.

    Reassurance of the true God that He will save us

    Isaiah 35:4 (KJV) states: “Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you.”

  14. my answer... because it is still 2008 and there are at least 3 and a half more years to live... we have a choice on how we live it... besides... I think life likes irony... and so the 'end times' won't come when we expect it... but then again you could be right... so when you graduate... party and enjoy your summer...

  15. because the end of the world was supposed to happen in 2000, 2004 and 2008...

    why believe anymore??

  16. oh i've heard that, but like the end of the world keeps getting moved. Kinda bugging me now, cause I stopped putting my socks together last time.

  17. Well if you only try because you think there's a sure and steady future...then why do you try at all? There isn't any surety that tomorrow comes for anyone, forget 2012! Our bodies are extremely fragile and the slightest mishap will kill us easily. You could get hit by a car, shot, have a heart failure, suffer from a fatal infection after injury, etc. etc. It's really not a safe world. Every second someone dies. Check this out: http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf

    The point of "trying" is that it's worth doing it for its own sake. A job is not worth doing well because of the raise/rewards you'll get for it afterwards, but because it's right and doing anything less is wrong. Honesty, loyalty, love, compassion, understanding, and concern for others all work the same way. Every second is its own gift. Live it rightly. You owe the giver of that second a good use of it! ;)

  18. I bet somebody $100 million that 2012 is NOT the end of the world.

    If I win ...they pay me...if I lose, its all over anyways. Why worry !

    Cant think of a more Win-win-win situation !


  19. Life can't end in 2012.  That's the year the summer olympics will  be in England.  That's just too cruel.  :P

  20. Because there is no truth proving it is the end.

    So I'll try until I know for certain.

    Isacc Newton said 2050 is going to be end of the world.

    Trust me, once 2012 passes, 2050 will be the new end of the world theory.

  21. There is no evidence for an end of the world in 2012.

    Stop making up dumb excuses and do your homework.


  22. thats a good point, maybe it is just a turning point...

    im class of 2012 too

  23. no it is not so, do not worry. go on doing what ever you are doing at present.

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