IF jordan is so great how come he never got past the 1st round without pippen?

Question

why does everyone say kobe hasnt won a ring without shaq,when mj never got past the 1st round without pippen.now thats sad.plus kobe just got to the finals this year and should win it all at least 2 more times in his career.so thats 2 finals mvps.plus why is everyone so biaest sayin there will never be anyone greater then mj.well how the h**l do u know that?kobes got the same skill set as jordan and can do anything just as good as jordan so why doesnt he get the credit.

I don’t know why people hate on Kobe so much, maybe it’s because he’s so d**n good or cocky or because he’s killed your team countless times.But i do know one thing if kobes not the G.O.A.T then hes definately a close second.why cant ppl admit that.also jordan never played against zone d.he ddnt play against the talent of kobes era.he had no competion for the mvp.kobe has cp3 lebron duncan dwight howard,i could go on all day.tell me one thing u kobe haters who was mjs competion

Answer 1

How about he never had winning season w/o Pippen ?

Why is not winning Championship and not being able get out of 1st round is comparable ?

Answer 2

He never lost a finals without pippen either, and kobe lost a finals with shaq.  And this laker team is 10x better than the bullz team before pippen and grant came along.  And your predicting things that haven't happened yet.  Wait until it does happen before you say it does.

Jordan was the greatest in the finals.  Once he got to the finals he was not gona lose and he wouldn't tolerate any of his teamates playng soft are being scared.  Once again Put jordan on this lakers team and they beat the celtics in 7.  Jordan would not of tolerated what gasol and odoms pathetic performance in the finals.  That's the difference between jordan and kobe...you can't teach somebody to have heart or that stuff inside.  Shaq said it best..."real recognizes real"

Charles Barkley, Magic Johsnon, Hakeem the dream, Larry Bird, Dominique, Patrick Ewing, Malone, Stockton, Clyde the glide drexler, Isiah Thomas,  rogbert parish, kevin mchale all of them in their primes during jordan's non title years i can go on even more than that.

Answer 3

good question.

Answer 4

Jordan first 3 playoff appearances and never got out of the first round, he was a good player then and became a great player as the years went by and those first 3 playoff appearances came when he was drafted out of north carolina.                                                              

before Jordan was drafted to the bulls, they were out of the playoffs for 3 yrs until Jordan came around, it showed how GOOD Jordan was when he joined the bulls and again when the years passed he became a GREAT player!

Larry bird

Kevin mchale

Robert parish

Dennis Johnson

magic Johnson

Kareem Abdul-jabbar

James worthy

Gary Payton

Shawn Kemp

Paul pierce

Kevin Garnette

shaq Oneal

Karl Malone

john Stockton

Reggie miller

Patrick Ewing

Kobe Bryant

Dr j

Alonzo mourning

Charles Barkley

Clyde drexler

Hakeem Olajuwon

theres more to many to name!!!

as for Kobe he barley made a difference when he came around, after maybe 6 to 7 years and after the championships and loss to the pistons, he was on his own without shaq, Kobe had playoffs and finals experience and what did he do on his first year of wanting to be the go to guy, LOSING SEASON AND DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS,

shows you how GOOD Jordan was his first 3 yrs and how GREAT as the years passed

Answer 5

I believe he is a good player, one of the best today in fact. But he cannot be compared to MJ, he's Kobe Bryant, that name will forever be Kobe Bryant.

I will even go as far to say Kobe has equal skill sets, but his will and determination are far below Jordan's and that's what seperates him from so many more players.

But if you wish for me to list MJ's competition fine.

Magic Johnson

Larry Bird

Kevin Mchale

Isiah Thomas

Karl Malone

Charles Barkley

Patrick Ewing

(young) Shaquille Oneal

Hakeem Olojuwon

Kareem Abdul Jabbar (aging, but still great.)

Clyde Drexler

John Stockton

David Robinson

Chris Mullin

Reggie Miller

Allen Iverson (when young)

Gary Payton

Penny Hardaway (in his prime.)

Grant Hill (in his prime.)

and SO MANY MORE, and I mean, A LOT more.

Answer 6

ITS KNIDA LIKE HOW KOBE CANT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT SHAQ

Answer 7

Jordan didn't have an ego the size of Kobe's.  He was willing to play with what he have and Pippen was part of the team.  If it was Kobe playing with Pippen, Kobe would have ran Pippen off the team after the first title just to prove to the world that he doesn't need Pippen.  That's what he did to Shaq.

Nobody hate Kobe.  You guys made this up.  You post a question who is better and when someone tell you MJ is better, to you that mean we hate Kobe.

Until Kobe have 6 rings or 6 Final MVP, don't tell me how great Kobe is.

Answer 8

MJ was 39 when he joined Washington Wizards. He was well over his prime but still lead the Wizards in scoring (22.90 ppg), assists (5.2 apg), and steals (1.42 spg). He lifted Washington to the playoffs, no other 39 year-old player can do that. And Bulls have more talent than Washington.

Here is something from Stephen A. Smith: "Unlike Kobe, Jordan never got flat-out embarrassed in an NBA Finals game. In fact, Jordan never lost as many as three games in a Finals series. He wouldn't have tolerated it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?...

Answer 9

He never one a season because his team had it in their heads he was one man so they let him go one on five. and some of the veterans on the team were mad so they didnt get along on the court with him because he was so popular as a rookie

Answer 10

What up baller,

First let me say as someone who has watched MJ and Kobe's entire career.  That Kobe fans do not do Kobe any favors but trying to diminish what Michael Jordan has accomplished in his career.  Michael was the greatest during his time- and Kobe is right now the greatest during his time- and the comparisons really shouldn't be made until Kobe's career is all said and done.  

Kobe haters will be Kobe haters- and the only thing that Kobe can do between now and the rest of his careers is win some titles and that should shut the Haters up.  But trying to downplay Jordan's value to the game i think is disrespecting the game.  

i mean i hated Larry Bird growing up as a Magic Johnson fan- but i'm never going to take away from what a great player he was.  Magic got the nod over Bird because of the rings- and i think you have to give Jordan the nod over Kobe right now because of his rings and finals mvp- but Kobe has a chance to catch up between now and the time that he retires- and if he can win some more rings- we've a very good comparison between two of the greatest players to ever play the game.

To dog on Jordan is about as dumb as those guys who try to take away from Kobe's 81 point performance or those who act like Shaq could win without Kobe- Shaq rode D. Wade's coat-tails to his title in Miami.  In fact he was fouled out in game 6- and it was Alonzo's block-a-thon in the 4th quarter and D. Wade's offense that clinched the series against Dallas- which by the way that series was more about Dallas choking than Miami (and Shaq dominating) it was D. Wade dominating!!!  So all that Shaq can win without Kobe talk is silly stuff...

Nickster

Answer 11

jordan also played againt dominant defenders.

olajuwon

mutumbo (in prime)

shaq

alonzo

robinson

ewing

Answer 12

because kobe is a prick

Answer 13

Kobe is truly dope & gets hated on for being that good but in truth he is second behind MJ for this reason HE THINKS HE IS THE NEXT MJ DEEP DOWN. Kobe has murdered most teams .to say that mj never had competition is bull, M Richmond , Dumars ,Drexler & Ron Harper to name 4 gave him a rough ride still never stopped him from scoring but made him work a lot harder on both ends of the court.

Also remember the pistons & knicks used to UFC his *** in the early years

Also remember the names of Magic, Bird , Olajuwon , Ewing, Barkley, Robinson & Dominique were all stars & played for over 10 years plus & All Stars to boot . Please don't get me wrong D Wade /CP3 / Lebron, Melo , Howard & KG are beasts of now , but a different time & place the 90's made us the fans we are today & the current players the stars they are today    please recognise

Answer 14

Jordan also never had a winning season without Pippen. Its because the media overhype him during his playing career. Jordan can't make a 3pt shot to save his life. In the 94-95 season the nba made the 3pt line closer, and that was the only season he had a decent percentage.

Answer 15

Im a laker fan but Your saying Jordan era has no competition? Wow...

the 90s was LOADED with talent.  He had to go against:

Young Dominant Shaq

Charles BArkley

John Stockton

Karl Malone

Hakeem Olajuwan

David Robinson

Magic Johnson

Clyde Drexler

Reggie Miller

Kobe Bryant

Jason Kidd

Allen Iverson

Gary Payton

and soo many more.

Answer 16

Funny thing is kobe never got past the 1st round without a good teammate either. Basketball is a team effort. It takes the whole team to win, not just 1 guy. God most of the people that post on here are idiots.