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IS anyone else tired of how women are OBJECTIFIED by their looks in society?

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I don't feel the feminist movement has done all that much for women as it seems all women learn by a certain age that whats in their minds and hearts only counts for so much & what really matters is if she is attractive. is anyone else tired of this fact and wish that things would change??

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  1. I'm tired of the way simple words like "objectified" are misinterpreted by half-wits.  That which is perceived is called an "object."  The perceiver is the "subject."  The subject-object duality is the basis of every though process.  By disparaging that duality, I suppose that feministas are promoting unconsciousness--the life of a vegetable rather than objectification.  A lovely ideal.


  2. yawn....

          I don't watch TV much because I am tired of the way advertisement and the media portrays males.

          Honestly I do not care. Women activist's tend not to see the media's unfair portrayal of men as violent,idiotic, foolish,clumsy,child like and as a "non" parent as a problem so I really don't care about the minor media advertisement problems women have.

       But take your pick between the media saying your stupid/ a danger or that you should be attractive as the "entertainment" stereotype for your respective gender.

    - I know this point is harsh but I am tired of feminist's whining about small potato's acting like some great crime has been committed when they themselves are committing far graver crimes.

            

  3. You're onto something. Notice how the men are fine with it? Men want women to waste time trying to please them.

    Then there are people, even a good number of females, who will say that it's women's fault, that we create/perpetuate it by being beautiful.

    Obviously we have more than a few issues in this department. Women are beautiful. PEOPLE are beautiful. I see beauty in everyone, old, young, male, female, fat, thin... Life is beautiful and when you open your eyes to the beauty that is there, simply permeating everything, well, then you live in great beauty.

    We are taught by the media what we are supposed to consider beautiful. We begin with the indoctrination when we are too young to make a choice as to whether we will buy into our culture's narrow, comodified, ever-shifting concept of beauty. When we got older we can make a choice to perpetuate it or not, but if we choose not to we muct be willing to suffer the consequences. If you don't keep perpetuating it, you don't make as much money, you don't get picked at dances, you don't get dates as easily, and that there is a much bigger deal than we want to admit. Basically rejecting "beauty" means that you will be less likely to reproduce and your body wants to reproduce.

    Not much of a choice, eh?

    Women have been coerced into focusing on creating falsified images of beauty, for male viewing pleasure, for thousands of years. It's just an extension of the male sense of entitlement. Males think they are entitled to beautiful, s*x-dispensing, house-cleaning, baby-making slaves. They want to posses female beauty, female sexuality, female industriousness,and female fertility, but they don't just want to posses it, they want to UTILIZE it, like a resource -- for their own pleasure, convenience, amusement, and (in the case of fertility) to pass on their names (a completely bankrupt and illegitimate practice, I might add  -- research mtDNA, it's completely matrilineal -- children should only be named after their mothers). This male desire to posses and utilize female power is the root of all patriarchy, and you're right, it is alive and well.

    Only in the recent past have advertisers come upon the idea that if they constantly put out unrealistic and ever shifting ideals of beauty, they can get millions of people to chase that mirage, to run (or rather, to $pend) on the ham$ter wheel of beauty. The fact that in the last decade men are increasingly being called into this trap is of no consolation. The answer to patriarchy and rampant obsessions with $hit that doesn't matter is not including males in every sucky thing females deal with. The answer is to let the $hit compost and grow some flowers in your soul.

    We can choose to recognize and honor the beauty in ourselves and each other, but it's a slow process and you can only change yourself. Unfortunately, the media machine is bigger that any of us and there are thousands of new ham$ter$ being born each day. You can also join in a larger cause and work to create the change you wish to see. Contact the Ad Council, write your elected officials, write letters to the editor of newspapers, create art that makes a statement... You can be a part of the solution, and it seems you've already started. Kudos and good luck.

  4. It must be so terrible for you well let's all hope and wish that you all go to sleep and one day soon or even tomorrow wake uplooking like ugly mouse’s where people turn away from you in horror, hope it is so, you should get your wish!!

    In the mean time why not curse God for the blight that you have to suffer?

    Or would it be better to be grateful for who and what you are? just wonder

  5. No

  6. if you're tired of it then talk to the women who dress provocatively like they're meat on the bone.

    In the meantime, did you see the @ss on that hottie that just walked by?

  7. I notice you didn't pick a particularly ugly avatar--did you base that on what is visually pleasing??  And if so, did you not, by your own argument, just objectify yourself??

  8. it's not just women. people in general are valued based on their looks. most feminists(and most women) are not bothered by this. why? because most women are pretty and most pretty women are enjoying this preoccupation with looks in our society, because it only puts them on top. not to mention, a lot of these women jugde themselves based on how attractive they are to the "hot boys", and that is largely influenced by their looks.

    it's mostly those who know how it feels to be deemed less attractive and devalued because of that who actually see this as a problem. there some "attractive" people who are not shallow and see this too, but for the most part, the "attractive" people are enjoying it.

    however, what everyone must understand is that anyone who says "i don't have a problem with it" or "there's nothing wrong with it" is only saying that because they have no idea how it feels to be hurt by this and their closed minds don't allow them to think outside the box.

  9. Yes, women are objectified. Society chooses to neglect this just because women have rights now, but if you look at it from a universal perspective - women are the housekeepers, women are not in parliament, women always must keep a good appearance otherwise they are worthless...

    Sure, there are a few exceptions to the statements i had above but if you look at the world as a hole, they are pretty correct.

    ...just think of all the words in the dictionary that describe a promiscuous woman... now think of words that describe a promiscuous man. Large difference isn't there?

    Womans' roles and options in this day and age are slightly better than before... but still there is more work to be done.  

  10. I would say women have some responsibility in this. Besides, men are starting to experience similar effect, though it may still lag behind.

    To add: I understand this may not be popular among women, but women make choices in how they dress, behave, appear on TV, etc. which influnce this opinion in men  -- even if that's wrong.

  11. not really.

  12. no not at all everyone objectifies the good looking whether men or women and only ugly people spend their time moaniing about it. its called jealousy lol.

  13. Feminism fought for women's rights, and that includes a woman choosing her career.  The downside?  Some of those careers involve the beauty industry, and the adult entertainment industry.  It's not Feminism's job to try and change that, it would only go counter to their cause of women being able to do what ever they d**n well want to do.  And in my experiences, I've run into very few instances where my looks were all that mattered to the situation at hand.  I've never felt objectified at all.  And no, it's not because I'm some knockout, I'm actually fairly average in looks, short, formerly flat chested(got b***s after marriage, pregnancies, and weight gain), broad shoulders and back, large thighs, mousy/ash brown hair, freckles.  I wasn't taught to think that my mind didn't matter as much as my looks.  If a woman grows up feeling like that, maybe you should look more towards who's raising her, which is her parents not society.

  14. YES i am tired of it. But I take care of my look only for my self-satisfaction. I don't do it to look good to random people (especially here where I live most people out are pathetic). I think the only way I can get over it is to be independent in all aspects. I know a lady in mid 40-50? I guess, who's never been married. and I thought she's so confident and awesome. U don't have to follow the objectification and expectation socially and culturally imposed on women, and enjoy your life to the fullest.

  15. I think it sucks that looks are so important in our society. I know this isn't exactly related to what you are saying, but when you really think about it, we are all going to get old and saggy, then die so why does it matter so much to people? Our physical appearance is almost meaningless and people make such a big deal out of it. But yeah, I am tired of that and wish that things could change.

  16. It'll never change as long as desperate women are willing to do virtually anything to live up to some man's idea of beauty, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

  17. That's not the fault of feminism; quite the reverse, in fact.  Most media executives are male, and its always been that way.

  18. Yes, I am disgusted by the standards and poor examples the media sets for society.

  19. This is the true tragedy of feminism; women need to blame men for looking good and appealing and are not able to see the stupidity behind it, how sad is that?

    Andrew is right you should all wake up as ugly as sin, lets hope you get your wish and soon

    What a sad world the feminist PC world would be, God help us, and save us from this  


  20. It depends - some women do it on purpose - make up, hairstyle, clothing, mannerisms -  

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