IS this scenario a Fraud?

Question

Lets set up a scenario. My last question wasn't very clear. GENERALLY SPEAKING.

Father is an employee of a pen maker, they require employees to be 18 years old. idk.

Father can make pens at home.

Father gives the pen parts to me, I make the pens for him.

Father gets paid, he gives part of the money to me because I WAS the one that did the work.

He signed up for the company, put in all his information, the w-9 filled in his name, everything. I am not an employee of the company.

IS THAT FRAUD?

Answer 1

YES

Answer 2

Not necessarily.  It depends on your father's agreement with the pen maker.  If he has agreed to do the work himself, then yes- it is fraud.  If the agreement does not state that, he can go out and hire 30 people to assemble the pens and pay them whatever rate he wants and the company shouldn't care.  It's called sub-contracting and companies do it all the time.  It all depends on your dad's agreement.

Answer 3

It is at lease un ethical. Fraud is a very thin line. but if i owned the pen making company i would consider it fraud and i would fire that employee.  

Answer 4

It depends on your relationship with your father.  Are you helping him, or is he overbearing and standing over you, forcing you to make these pens ??  If you are doing it willingly, then I would say it isn't fraud.  You are helping your father provide for the family.  If he is forcing you, that is a different story.  Your question is not black and white without knowing how you feel in the situation.  Good luck with whichever you decide is the truth !  

Answer 5

I do not think its fraud it just sound like he is trying to help his son and the IRS is getting their money so there is no tax fraud.

Answer 6

No, he is paying all the taxes. It is just their policy. Policy is not law just an employer guide line. Support your dad he is having to take care of you and you should be proud that you can help.  

Answer 7

I don't know if it's fraud but it IS illegal... you need to become an employee but I'm guessing you are under 18 so I guess you can do it and risk getting your father in trouble and risk him losing his job or you can wait until you're 18. Personally, I would do it as long as your father knew the risks and agreed to them and knew how to be smart about not getting caught. Otherwise get another job and wait until you're 18.

Answer 8

Generally; it is. Practically; it really doesn't matter how many people your father has working for him unless his employment agreement says he has no right to have someone help him

Answer 9

No. All you are doing is helping out your father to get the work done. So that shouldn't be a problem. Fraud is a deception made for personal gain.I don't think that has been done here. Unless it stated in the contract that your father CANNOT use help, even then it wouldn't be fraud.