Ichiro has 3000 career hits combined mlb and japan, how can they carry over hits and still call him a rookie?

Question

when ichiro am over in i believe 2001(or 2), he stole the AL ROY from Alfonso Soriano. Ichiro had already been playing for multiple seasons in japan, but he was still a rookie. Now Ichiro got his 3000 hit between MLB and Japan, how can people recognize his accomplishment after calling him a rookie in 2001. You have to choose, either say he's a rookie and not even acknowledge 3000 career hits, or just do the right thing and not consider him a rookie in 2001, comments or explanations please.

Answer 1

A player's first year in the MLB is considered his rookie year, regardless of how many years he has been playing elsewhere. But I do agree with you, in that people shouldn't exactly be celebrating about this, since when do stats from one league carry over to another? You never hear about a  pitcher's wins from Japan being added to his wins the MLB

Answer 2

They recognize his accomplishments over the air but the japan stats don't actually count toward his stats and records

Answer 3

first off there not combinig it there just saying over his proffesional carrer he has 3000 hits not in the mlb but in his pro carrer and he was a rookie because he hadent played in the majers just the same way as  jackie robinson waaas a rokie when he caame from the ***** league bottom line hes the best hitter ever no matter where hes played not a power hitter but a pure hitter so yeah no one is carrying over his hits

Answer 4

those hits from Japan do not count as his MLB hits, they are just saying, both in Japan and the MLB, he now has 3000 hits. I don't think you will understand that, but oh well. When he started playing in the MLB in 2001, he had 0 hits. Combined, Japan and the MLB, he has 300.

you obviously do not understand or you would not have posted this question. you shouldn't even be talking, you couldn't even get 3000 hits in a video game. who really cares, he has hit 3000 balls, why do you care so much about it?

Answer 5

Because people like celebrating. I hadn't actually heard about this until just now so it can't be that big of a celebration.

Answer 6

Was it his first year in the Major leagues? Yes.

Should we deny a Cuban player the ROY title because he's played in Cuba?

Also, if you know that they aren't officially counting it, why'd you ask? And it's been 7 years. Are you really still bitter that he won the ROY and not Soriano? Sabathia had more points in the voting than Soriano anyway. Yankees are not all that matter. You wouldn't say the same thing had Matsui won the award in 2003 either.

Answer 7

Yeah, they shouldn't let those people be in consideration for Rookie of the Year. Not when they've played a large amount of time in Japan. If we officially declare the Japanese league the Minor Leagues, then we could call the rookies, but I don't think they would appreciate that very much. So I think it's dumb how they even bring it up. As far as I'm concerned, the hits from the MLB are the only ones that count.

Answer 8

I think that it's nice that he got 3000, but it's not an official stat.  Maybe his team just wants to appease him.

I also think that it is unreal to allow a guy with several years of axperience in Japan to bve eligible for ROTY.  Maybe they have to put an age cap on it, with a possibility for a waiver for someone who only has minor league time.

Answer 9

They're just celebrating it for Ichiro, seriously take it easy.

So ichiro has been playing in Japan and he comes over to MLB and becomes a Rookie and so you guys don't want to name him a Rookie?

Its basically like a team calling up a player from Triple A to come play in the MLB, his first time in the MLB, hes a rookie. Eventhough regardless of how many years hes played in Triple A hes still a rookie.

Or look at Josh Hamilton, hes still considered a ROokie :)