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If Evolution is true, then Racism can't be wrong. Comment?

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In our society, we believe that life evolved. So how can people be equally evolved?

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  1. Evolutionary science doesn't hold that species evolve from "less" to "more" evolved levels. Biological evolution isn't linear or progressive; it's branching and adaptive.

    Racists hold that inherent superiority or inferiority of people types can be discerned based on discrete physical characteristics. This is just incorrect. Homo sapiens is one species, and like all species there is some degree of physical variation across the range of humanity. That doesn't mean that arbitrarily discerned racial categories (that even vary significantly from culture to culture) have any discrete biological validity.


  2. What makes you deduce that 'racisum cant be wrong?'...and why demand that ..or require that..a variety of Representatives of family's of  members of a species all be identical in  way 's  that blur there individuality..?

    I am kinda fond of life's variety's, appreciate it's diversity's, marvel at it's uniqueness'es,  ...  how ever 'evolved' different  peoples

    are, might some day be only a recollection, humanity may homogenize it's self into the equivalency of domestic sheep, or cows... who knows.

    If that does happen,..we will all surely be the poorer for it.

  3. It's life, Captain, but not as we know it.

    Read your own question and tell me if you see anything wrong with it. No? Okay, I'll point it out for you.

    In simple terms, white, black, brown, yellow, red or blue with pink polka dots; WE ARE ALL ONE RACE: Homo Sapiens. We all evolved from the same root: primates. And we are ALL on the same branch of the evolutionary tree.

    What did you think? That some people are Homo Sapiens, some Neanderthal and some Homo Erectus? Or maybe some even further back - Australopithecine?

    And "racism" ("colourism" would be a more appropriate term) IS wrong. All bigotry is wrong, whoever it may be directed against.

  4. It does not follow, logically.

  5. First skin color doesn't determine intelligence or how evolved you are.

    Second your proximity to the gigantic fireball determines your skin's hue.

    Third your proximity to the sun also determines intelligence or how much you have time to study. Cold climates produce more intelligent people, because there aren't as many creatures that you have to battle to survive. Warm climated people have had to deal with things chasing them and a much more difficult time eating(procuring food). To much direct sunlight can seriously damage your brain.

    Fourth since this capitalistic economy is creating an entire world that is a cultural breadbasket, in the near future all of our skin colors will be the same. We will start to look more and more alike until we are all identical. That is what evolution is and it has nothing to do with race.

  6. No. 1) Not just all people but all life on Earth is EQUALLY evolved as everything has been evolving for an equal amount of time. 2) We are a very recent species - pick any 2 people on Earth and they are more genetically related to each other than sibling great apes are to each other. There is virtually no different between races, even at a population level. 3) Any subjective difference between races that you manage to identify (I haven't seen any) exists whether you accept evolution or not. 4) Evolution, like gravity, electromagnetism, etc is NOT a moral code.

  7. In the New Testament, slaves were in fact paid employees or indentured.  Often times they were adopted as members of the family and were treated with the same dignity.  Race has nothing to do with slavery.  The root meaning of slave came from the ancient word slav. The word SLAV refers to Caucasians or Russians that enslaved Germanic peoples.  The first slaves in modern history in North America were Caucasians and they were indentured for a very short period of time.

    You maybe interested in Reading "The Puzzle of Ancient Man" by Dr Donald Chittick and "Darwin's Black Box" by Dr Michael J. Behe

  8. Just because something is different, there is no justification in treating it as inferior. Or in assuming it as inferior. This goes for all facets of life, whether we are talking about people, animals or trees.

    The Evolution of humans has occurred over billions of years, we split from the other apes about 7 million years ago, and the last African migration took place only about 200,000 years ago. In this 200,000 years, about the only significant things which has evolved in the human race are superficial features such as facial appearance and skin colour, as adaptations to different environments. Some racists, however, need very little encouragement to justify their distorted logic. If you can justify racism because of supposed differing evolution inequalities you should consider that the variation within each "race" is much broader than the differences between them. There is so much overlap of intelligence, character, strength etc etc, that the differences can easily be demonstrated as insignificant and superficial.

    Conversely, if Evolution is wrong, and Creationism is true, then slavery is acceptable, since it is mentioned in the Bible as such.

  9. If you're looking at it in terms of the grand scale, then race really means nothing as far as evolution goes (As little a colour differences between animals from different continents).

    How could anyone say that we HAVN'T all evolved the same way? Ten fingers, ten toes, hair in all the normal places, none of us have wings or gills...

    Our skin colours are simply indicative of where we all specifically started geographically and if there are differences (such as Asians having, by comparison, smaller pinky fingers due to evolutionary disuse) then these differences are on such a small scale that they almost don't count.

    Racism in that case is socially WRONG, yes, but also a small point on an enormous map. (Trouble is, it's hard to compare human evolution and human social behaviours on anywhere near the same level.)

  10. 1)  Evolution IS true.

    2)  Racism IS wrong.

    There, wasn't that easy?

    Evolution is adaptation to environment.  The idea of "more evolved" or "less evolved" is a fallacy.  Evolution is not linear, nor is it progressive.

  11. Darwinism is not social Darwinism.

    Evolution is based on the species, not the individual.  Plus there is little variation in humans so race is insignificant.

  12. You are seriously confused between description and prescription. Then you further "muddy the water " by confusing two levels of analysis; the ultimate and the proximate. Then you confuse evolution; people do not evolve, populations do.

  13. That's silly.

    My first degree was in Bio and Psych and when I got the second in Anthro, I was constantly amazed how many anthro majors just blew basic science questions.

    Humans are ONE SPECIES. SPECIES evolve, not races. Races can interbreed-they are the same species.

  14. In this politically correct environment, I won't touch that one.

  15. Evolution is not directional actually..

    different types of birds also evolved, but you wouldn't call an eagle the master bird, and owls inferior birds, they just evolved differently to fill in a particular niche...

  16. What was with sw1 irly?

    Of course racism is wrong and evolution can't prove that one race is better than another. Evolution began as a way to explain why animals look differently but were really quite the same. It extended to people not as a way to extend racism but a way to see why were similar to each other.

  17. Have you ever even heard of logic?  It doesn't sound like it from your weak arguement.  You should finish 2nd grade before you start telling other people your opinions on evolution.

  18. Evolution is a scientific fact; racism is a state of mind.  Two completely different things.

  19. Look... for racism to be valid, the first thing you'd have to do was have a concrete definition of exactly what it takes to be one race or another, and there would have to be no overlap at all.  If you want to use genetics to support your argument, you'll need a clear genetic distinction as well.

    To date, NOBODY has EVER made ANY kind of definition of ANY race that stands up to this kind of concrete test.  Period.

    The fact of the matter is that most racists judge by readily observable and completely inaccurate physical characteristics.  We have all heard stories of people of one race 'passing' as being members of another race.  Pretty much all races have enough variation to do this, and pretty much all of them share not-to-distant mixing with each other.

    To treat one population as evolutionarily separate from another, there can be NO new mixing of genes.  None.  Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.  In an evolutionary context, all current races of humans are pretty much identical.

  20. It is true that the standard of living and progress varies from nation to nation. These are a lot because of isolation and enviroment. However great people with great minds have and will continue to come from different races. So it would not be correct to generalize about the equality of the races. It is strictly an individual thing. From what little I have seen on some of these talk shows and online it is obvious that a lot of people have a lot of catching up to do.

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