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If God is so loving why does he create something with the potential to endure ever lasting agony.?

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Oh please Christians no free will stuff I don't feel well tonight.

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  1. Rewarding his believers with Heaven makes sense, but punishing those who do not believe, with eternal torture, makes no sense for someone characterized as being loving and forgiving.  


  2. Do you mean things like the Chernobyl disaster? I have no idea. A lot of what he does makes no sense at all, so I really don't think about it too much.

  3. You can receive the love of God only if you love him and you go to him. You can not do it, simply because you want to follow your own desires. God is the biggest obstacle in your way to live the life of your own desires. You can never understand who God is and how he loves us. But there are thousands of people who experience it in their day to day life. They can not even think of a separation from him. It will make them totally lost and out of their own self. God does not want to many of you to know him; you will be handed over for eternal destruction, if you do not try to come to his ways. You can not please yourself and God simultaneously.

  4. To test the faith of the Christians, I guess.

  5. I doubt he does.  Free will or not.  And free will exists.  Don't try to tell me that you had no choice other than to post that *drink* question.

  6. While Christians affirm unequivocally that God is essentially good and loving, it must be emphasized that complementary to these attributes is the characteristic of justice. A loving being that ignored evil or that treated bad acts and good acts equally would not be good. Hence, if God is good, then God is also just - he must treat evil as evil. So, if any creatures merited the existence of h**l, then God could remain essentially good and loving by giving them justice, even if that means 'sending' some creatures to h**l. A misconception about h**l is that it is a place of physical torment and torture. Rather, most Christians have understood these descriptions to capture symbolically that h**l is final and utter separation from God's saving grace.

    A false assumption is that love allows the object of that love to do whatever he or she wants. However, this permissive kind of "love" isn't really love at all. Any of you who are parents will recognize that allowing your children to do whatever they want to do is not loving at all. If you were to do this, your children would grow up to be spoiled selfish brats, incapable of loving other people.

    In God there is no hatred, desire for revenge, or pleasure in seeing us punished. God wants to forgive, heal, restore, show us endless mercy, and see us come home. But just as the father of the prodigal son let his son make his own decision God gives us the freedom to move away from God's love even at the risk of destroying ourselves. There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done', and those to whom God says, in the end, 'Thy will be done.' All that are in h**l, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no h**l. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. To those who knock it is opened."

  7. God eventually saves all of us from sin and punishment and shares His complete happy experience of eternity with everyone...

    God reconciles all to Himself through Jesus Christ, Who makes peace through His shed blood and crucifixion (Col 1:20). Jesus is the Lamb of God Who takes away all the sins of all the world (Jn 1:29). The creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God (Rom 8:21).

    h**l's punishment is not forever but until the end of the eons - eonian punishment. People don't sin enough during their mortal lives for God to choose endless punishment besides it would spoil the future of eternity to have a section continually reserved for endless torture...

    People are made by God to rebel against His ideal will for them and then offered a choice - forgiveness of their rebellion, or, punishment for their sins until they have paid the last 'penny'... After punishment, those who went through torture in h**l come to realise they need faith on God to succeed in life and they are converted into God's kingdom so that they cease from sinning and are rewarded for their compliance...

    There are two bible translations which uphold the doctrine of Universal Reconciliation with God, and the union of all beings into experience of God as the all in each of us. For a free download of these bibles you can try this website:  http://www.scripture4all.org/

    An outline of the bible references which support Christian Universalism has been posted at this webpage:  http://uk.geocities.com/timpauloconnor@b...


  8. He didn't. Those are Christian teachings, not those of the Lord Jesus Christ. God Is Cool. God believes in reincarnation, not damnation.

  9. God is perfect and pure yes? For one to go to heaven (this is not white fluffy clouds, but eternity in God's presence) one must be perfect. God must deny all evil to be perfect, so evil is 'put to death'. Originally this was where we were all going, to death. But God loved us all so much that he came down to earth as a man and took the price of sin by being nailed to a cross so we could spend eternity with him. He is offering this to everyone, he doesn't want you to go to h**l. You just need to accept his gift.

    God doesn't want you to go to h**l, he must put to death evil to be pure and perfect.  

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