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If I am correct 1970's scientist predicted that earth will go to ice age but it didn't happen is this the same

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for the Global Warming we know today and another mislead judgement by our great payed climate scientist... If this is true. It will be hard for me to trust climate scientist anymore. Do you agree with me ?

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  1. Dennis Miller (of SNL fame) said it best with regards to predictions of cooling and warming 20 years into the future.

    "When they tell me it will rain in 4 days . . . I check back 3 days later!"

    Yes some scientists did warn about the approaching Ice Age because temperatures had been cooling for 30 years - they actually proposed putting black soot on top of the polar ice caps to absorb more heat.  back then I recall a couple of articles (like Newsweek) but no hysteria.  

    The question is why all the hype now - the real answer is that Global Warming has little to do with the planet and more to do with wealth redistibution.   Follow the money - if Al Gore really thought all this was true, wouldn't he behave like it mattered?  What sly old Al did was set up companies to sell carbon credits and then told everyone that that was just as good as actually having a small carbon footprint - now that all the fools have bought into this scam, Al's company has raked in about $100,000,000 so far.

    3 years ago, we were going to have the coasts flood by 2010 -- now in 2008 it will happen in 5 more years -- any takers on betting that in 2012 it will be 2020?


  2. Well it did not sell very good and so the oil companies that were promoting it so they could raise their profits had them rewrite everything for global warming. This one with all the scare tactics associated with it have sold real good. Noticed the price difference for gasoline and other products that are associated with oil in some way.

  3. Wow how many times will this question be asked

    It seems it's a waste of time posting links to the facts as deniers cling to their faith and mis-information from Heartland.

    http://environment.newscientist.com/chan...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cool...

  4. the scientists then were wrong. just ask ted turner. come to the dark side.

  5. A number of climate scientists actually changed sides in the 1980's.  They have to go with the flow - there's a lot of politics in science.


  6. Kerry's answer is right on. If you're old enough, you probably remember a couple head-lining articles in the popular press (as I do), but the handful of scientists that actually considered it likely never convinced the vast majority of climate scientists that it was anything even remotely feasible in the near-term.

    Equating the cooling in the 70's speculation by a few scientists with 40 years of solid research by 1000's of climate scientists resulting in the consensus theory of AGW is an apples & oranges comparison. The web-sites that try to discredit scientists by falsely suggesting it was a widely held view are simply not credible.


  7. Climate science continues to be in its infancy.  Just as scientists had bad data when they predicted cooling in the '70's, they are using bad data today.  Surface station data is worthless due to poor placement and lack of maintenance.  The 'man-did-it' global warming group is having a hard time dealing with that truth.

    If today's climatologists really wanted to contribute to their field of science, they would demand that surface stations...... worldwide .... be re-positioned and repaired.  As of now, they have no credibility but their data continues to be used for climate forecasting.

    Bad data = No science.

  8. yes, you are right.  All the talk was about "Nuclear Winter" and how nuclear war and pollution would cause cooling over the Earth.  I remember hearing it all the time, which just goes to show you: take everything with a grain of salt...scientists are in the business of scaring the public, without fear and crazy theories, they wouldn't have a job.

  9. Not a majority of scientists, but some scientists.   A majority of environmentalists, yes, and certainly the loudest ones.    And since they were scaring people into supporting their political agenda (e.g., creation of the EPA) the ones who weren't worried about cooling didn't do anything to correct the record.

    http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world...

    Now they're hedging their bets - - - according to some, global warming could produce global cooling.

    http://www.dinosauria.com/jdp/news/freez...

  10. Right.  This prediction came from one of the computer models Dr. Jim Hansen was working on.  Now he's the same guy pushing the "global warming" panic.

    In 10 years people will deny that anyone actualy believed the Earth was warming as we will be entering into another cool period.

  11. No.

    The thing is the 70s was just a few scientists, with just a theory, no good data, and no backing from ANY major scientific organization.

    Today's global warming scientists have a mountain of data, and the backing of EVERY major scientific organization.

    The guys in the 70s weren't like global warming scientists, they were EXACTLY like today's "skeptics", getting way more attention in the media than they deserved.  Even then. more scientists were predicting warming.  Some of the guys who were predicting cooling in the 70s used Hansen's models improperly.  He had nothing to do with it.

    More here:

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=9...

  12. No, you're not correct, actually. The predictions of global cooling came primarily from the mass media, NOT from the scientific community. Actually, in the 70's there was already at least 42 peer reviewed scientific papers that predicted CO2-based warming, while only 7 predicted cooling.

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