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If Intelligent Design were true, how come humans are not designed very intelligently?

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Sorry Deejay a, but berickf has it right, and that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to looking at our human anatomy. Either God is a s****t, or this is further proof towards the process of evolution.

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  1. Give an objective definition for "designed intelligently," and we can begin. Bipedalism can be responsible for a host of conditions, but it's not like the quadrupeds live in perfect harmony with their bodies.

    If you're claiming that God could only make us with perfect bodies that never suffered from pain or disease or that never wore out, that's fine. But that's your claim, not anyone else's. You're missing a step in the logic. In fact, you seem to be implying that humans are constructed haphazardly, with lots of serious flaws. If that's true, it's a wonder how we ever got selected this way in the first place, and how we ever managed to survive at all. Evolution isn't really known for shoddy results either.

    As it is, bipeds of our kind tend to deal extremely well with heat, and we are extremely efficient, if not the fastest runners. Even out-of-shape Americans can run down rabbits and lizards and the like. People who run from a very young age, like Prehistoric hunters probably did, had the stamina to run down things like deer. There are definite advantages to our form. If you want to infer the non-existence of God from that, I guess that's your call.


  2. Human are designed very intelligently. If you look at the human body in detail(anotomy) you'll be amazed how everything works with each other in constant rhythem and with precise movements(heart beat). I think you are reffering to some people being dumb, that's just how they utilize their brain that doesn't mean they were not designed intelligently.

  3. Your answer to this of course, is not only found in the book which I will recommend below, but in the account of the fall of Adam, wherein, the serpent persuaded Eve to choose death, disease, decay and imperfection generally, over the perfection that God had created.

    Very simple stuff, really, people.

    Now, for further indeph challenge, please note the following:

    A prime reason is because D Towers, over his recent 9 year research, in his work, ‘TWO BIRDS ... ONE STONE!!', discovered, unequivocally, that Man and the snake are precise opposites of one another! ... in ALL aspects - both anatomically and behaviorally!

    That is eerie!!!

    But once we have recovered from the shock of such a discovery, we immediately realize that only a Master mind could have engineered such, and that random mutation certainly wasn't 'random", if at all!!

    The other gravital realization that strikes is that it overwhelmingly supports the Biblical Adam and Eve, wherein it was the snake [serpent] who tempted Eve to oppose God, and set up "opposition in all things' in the first place!

    Those who religiously 'hail' 'Biological Evolution of the Species' as some genuine, realistic, form of life source explanation:

    BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD NOW, AND WORK ON THAT ONE!!

  4. Intelligent Design is part of the "filling gaps" idea.  With this, Christians say that God is responsible for the various "holes" in theories.

    What's wrong with this idea is that we are closing these holes every day, so they themselves are suggesting that God becomes less and less important.  Lack of knowledge does not mean "God did it," and to believe otherwise is quite ignorant.

    Intelligent Design is purely faith, and will never be anything more.  It is obvious things are not perfectly designed... I don't know what the h**l my appendix is doing there (actually I do, we just EVOLVED to not need it anymore).  I highly doubt God guides the mutations that are selected for or against.

    Should we "teach the controversy," even though one side has no basis in fact or rationality?

  5. Our ears are not optimal for hearing.

    Our noses have rather poor olfactory ability.

    Our knees are not energy efficient.

    Our spines are not well adapted to being vertical.

    Our jaws are not large enough for the "wisdom teeth"

    Our intestines still include a useless extension called the appendix

    Our goosebumps are basically an attempt to make ourselves seem bigger by having our hair stand on end but we don't have enough hair for this reflex to be effective

    Our calves still contain an unused muscle called the gastrocnemis, used in arboreal primates but not landwalking humans

    These are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.  Some perfect creator.  If we are made in the image of god, as so many claim, then god is obviously pretty lousy in makeup as well...

  6. Yeah, its also why many peoples have sight problems and many others have bad teeth needing metal wirings... I got a collection of about 500 fossils, and about 60% of them having their skulls, and I can tell you that I have never seen an animal with teeth problems other than broken ones... If intelligent design is true, then we have been designed in a Chinese factory with Chinese made materials!

  7. It depends on your definition of "intelligence."

    The word has several different meanings, and

    most of them have nothing much to do with the

    sort of intelligence that you're probably thinking

    of.

    A computer, for example--a machine designed

    by humans--is "intelligently designed" by way of

    intricate circuitry. It has a brain, and can perform

    virtually all the functions of its creator, with the

    one exception of feeling; it doesn't have emotions.

    But a human being--which, arguably, was created

    by God--although it's impossible for one not to have

    emotions, can be as "mechanical" as a computer:

    if a person's conditioning has caused them to be

    mentally-ill, they can appear to be as void of

    emotions as a computer.

    (Does that, though, imply lack of intelligence? No.

    What it implies is that the person has suffered a

    severely traumatic experience, because of what

    a Christian would call "an act of God.")

  8. It is obvious not a question of intelligent design so much as a question of why there has to be any question about it in the first place.  We're kind of lucky there was a design at all.

  9. Yeah, I want to have a chat with this supposedly benevolent Creator about my bad knees, bad PMS, poor eyesight, wisdom teeth, and that burst appendix that nearly killed me when I was a baby.  Evolution explains all that, and more, very neatly, but I can't conceive of a loving God purposefully putting all of that in.

  10. You really have no clue as to the gross ignorance of your question, do you?   AAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH!!

  11. Look  at it  this  way.      An absolutely  top of the  line  computer   can come off the productionline  and  go into use.      It's  equipped  with  all the  latest   super-tech  features  and  has the  capability  to  do  anything you  ever heard    of a  computer being able to do and then some.     But   an  external intelligence has  to operate that computer.

                             Now,   think of a  computer  that   actually has to  "operate itself"      But because it has  personal  feelings,  and  desires, and  self interests, and  ambitions,   and  the  ability  to  even  harm  other  computers   if  it   will help  get  it  what it  wants,  it often   puts   all  of  these   things   into  use,   and in the process,   not only   harms   the good order  of   the  whole community of computers    around it, but  even   harms   its  own   self.

                               If     we  assume  that   some   supreme "intelligence"  actually  designed  those computers and then left  them to manage  themselves,    it  doesn't mean  that    that  intelligence  did  a  lousy  job of the  design.   It   incorporated into  the  design  all  the absolutely best   capabilities  for  perfect operation.       One of these  computers    was put inside the head of  each  "being" called   a  human,   but    these humans   were all  very  different in the  way  they  operated  their  computer.  Some  were    excellent  at it,  and  some  were   terrible.

                               What  could  the  "supreme   computer  designer" have  done  differently?      He could have   left out  one   component in   his  "humans"....     the  ability  to operate  individually   according  to    each  one's  own  will.   In other words  not  give    humans  the ability  to  think  and make  any  decisions  for themselves  one  way or another, but just   shuffle   around    like a  bunch  of  robots,   responding to    certain behaviour  signals.      Do you think  that would have been  very  "intelligent"?    

                        Just  imagine  what   this world  full of humans    would be  like if  we lacked  individual  initiative.    We  would  not have    individual    interests, and individual  skills and   abilities...  to be   designers, builders,  electricians,  inventors,  artists,     musicians,  and  all  the  amazing  variety of things  that individual  humans  have   come  to   be  good  at   and   had  the ability to accomplish.

                     When   we  shake  our heads   and  groan    because of  all the  terrible things   that  some humans   have done,  and  are   doing,   we   forget  about  all the   incredible, remarkable, mind-bogglingly   magnificent  things  that  we, as a  whole species  of beings, have  accomplished.    Every   day,  from the moment  we  wake  up in the morning  till when  we  close our eyes    to go to sleep  at night.....     and    even throughout that night......    we  are   enjoying  the   benefits of  aaaalllll  those  amazing   accomplishments that our  fellow  humans    have   achieved,  and learned how to put to use   for   all of us.    Every  day  that passes,   we,  as a species,  are   making    even  greater  discoveries  and  accomplishing  even bigger and better things.

                          Actually,  I   don't  subscribe  to the  concept of   some  "mysterious invisible  superbeing"  ,  whether you   want to  call it "God"    or   "Intelligent  Designer"       But  if  I   did,  I  certainly   wouldn't   accuse  that   Superbeing of  making  a  lousy   job of  inventing humans.    I  would  say it  was a  superb  job, and one that  is   proving itself   with  each successive generation of humans.       What  we  are is a  "work in progress", having come  a  long  way, but with  a  long journey  still  ahead of us.       I  am  very happy  to have   been  one  tiny  little   "individual being"  who has  been able to   be  a   part of  that  journey.

  12. Good one!!!

  13. Ironic isn't it?

  14. How very true.  As the Hominid upright posture formed and we became bipedal this had a lot of costs.  Back problems are extremely prominent in humans while rare in other species that hang their weight uniformly from their spines as opposed to compressing it straight down our spines.  Our abdominal muscles are still adjusting to this bipedal posture frequently resulting in hernias and our altered sweat system from endochrine to eccrine has resulted in prolific acne problems, especially during our puberty.  Gods cruel joke as part of his intelligent design?  I think not, just the scars of evolution.

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